Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[RukoBoshi]

The legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom and the Elden Ring DLC are things that keep me pushing. So hyped!

These two and FFXVI are my most anticipated games of the year.
Especially FFXVI since it's "newer" considering i already explored BOTW and base Elden Ring.

Seeing AOE marking on the floor in the FFXVI gameplay released today made me think of it as FFXIV on steroids lol.

[Fukuro]

These two and FFXVI are my most anticipated games of the year.
Especially FFXVI since it's "newer" considering i already explored BOTW and base Elden Ring.

Seeing AOE marking on the floor in the FFXVI gameplay released today made me think of it as FFXIV on steroids lol.

Yeah 16 definetly on the hype list too! I was very pleased with the combat showcase on the IGN-Channel.
Also love the darker theme going on. Will be such a blast.

[Vyrerus]

Definitely looking forward to Tears of the Kingdom too. That and XVI. Was also thinking about picking up Octopath Traveler II... though I didn't finish the first one still because I got bored after starting the Chapter 4s for each character.

[Thaciscokidd]

[RyuDragnier]

For later today.

[Vyrerus]

I am genuinely enjoying looking through old, old threads on this forum.

Also reading Arthurian Legend. Man, The Sword in the Stone sure as heck romanticized the ever lovin' heck outta this.

We got Arthur having a bastard son with his sister that grows up to kill him.

We got Guinevere "breaking her vows" with Lancealot and that same bastard son.

We got Merlin being half demon, spawned from a woman after she had a visit from an incubus.

We got Merlin getting sealed inside of a tree by a hot water chick named Ninian.

We got Excalibur having some weird ass Welsh names.

We got Lancelot getting raised by a fairy godmother.

We got some accounts denying Arthur's death.

Phew.

[Midareyukki]

I am genuinely enjoying looking through old, old threads on this forum.

Also reading Arthurian Legend. Man, The Sword in the Stone sure as heck romanticized the ever lovin' heck outta this.

We got Arthur having a bastard son with his sister that grows up to kill him.

We got Guinevere "breaking her vows" with Lancealot and that same bastard son.

We got Merlin being half demon, spawned from a woman after she had a visit from an incubus.

We got Merlin getting sealed inside of a tree by a hot water chick named Ninian.

We got Excalibur having some weird ass Welsh names.

We got Lancelot getting raised by a fairy godmother.

We got some accounts denying Arthur's death.

Phew.

Excalibur always had weird names. From its original welsh "Caledfwlch" to the Latinized version of that, "Caliburnus". Excalibur seems to have been popularized by the way the French said it. To their credit, writing or even pronouncing Welsh is an epic of its own.

Pretty sure Mordred didn't even exist originally. Whenever anyone mentioned Arthur having sons, they died really early into their infancy. Which then begs the question: where the hell did the Battle of Camlann even come from??

Lancelot also only existed since Late Medieval Romance, so 1400's, and he's very much written like it. He exists as a foil to Arthur with a "Chivalrous Romance" dynamic with Guinivere. He's not an original canon guy, and the whole infidelity arc was really just to push Romance's views on relationships and knightlyhood. So if he feels weird or off, or at all unrelated to the rest of the myth's message and epicness, you have the French to blame. It's an agenda they pushed.

Merlin got all that because apparently having a cool wizard dude was "too much" for the Christians. So they had to convert him into an antichrist figure born from an Incubus (some sources say the Devil himself), but who chose to defy his evil ancestry and become a badass good guy xD
The mental trips they took just to justify a good guy using magic. And that's before them giving Arthur's main quest being somehow finding the Holy Grail... a magical artifact associated with Jesus Christ who died at Jerusalem... somehow ends up in Britain. Someone had to retake Geography.

Honestly though, the Sword in the Stone might have had some weird influences in how we view King Arthur nowadays, but Japan's currently doing worse. Fate Grand Order's taking it up to eleven. "Camelot" is already pretty weird, but "Avalon le Fae" is an LSD field trip with a good soundtrack xD
The TV show Merlin was good, tho.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Excalibur always had weird names. From its original welsh "Caledfwlch" to the Latinized version of that, "Caliburnus". Excalibur seems to have been popularized by the way the French said it. To their credit, writing or even pronouncing Welsh is an epic of its own.

Pretty sure Mordred didn't even exist originally. Whenever anyone mentioned Arthur having sons, they died really early into their infancy. Which then begs the question: where the hell did the Battle of Camlann even come from??

Lancelot also only existed since Late Medieval Romance, so 1400's, and he's very much written like it. He exists as a foil to Arthur with a "Chivalrous Romance" dynamic with Guinevere. He's not an original canon guy, and the whole infidelity arc was really just to push Romance's views on relationships and knighthood. So if he feels weird or off, or at all unrelated to the rest of the myth's message and epicness, you have the French to blame. It's an agenda they pushed.

Merlin got all that because apparently having a cool wizard dude was "too much" for the Christians. So they had to convert him into an antichrist figure born from an Incubus (some sources say the Devil himself), but who chose to defy his evil ancestry and become a badass good guy xD
The mental trips they took just to justify a good guy using magic. And that's before them giving Arthur's main quest being somehow finding the Holy Grail... a magical artifact associated with Jesus Christ who died at Jerusalem... somehow ends up in Britain. Someone had to retake Geography.

Honestly though, the Sword in the Stone might have had some weird influences in how we view King Arthur nowadays, but Japan's currently doing worse. Fate Grand Order's taking it up to eleven. "Camelot" is already pretty weird, but "Avalon le Fae" is an LSD field trip with a good soundtrack xD
The TV show Merlin was good, tho.

Excellent analysis. The issue regarding the Holy Grail being in England is it originally was a whole other magical cup. But, the storytellers changed it to the cup related to Jesus when England became Christian. The fact it would have been highly unlikely for such a holy relic to get out of Jerusalem never seemed to occur to anyone at the time.

I am genuinely enjoying looking through old, old threads on this forum.

Also reading Arthurian Legend. Man, The Sword in the Stone sure as heck romanticized the ever lovin' heck outta this.

We got Arthur having a bastard son with his sister that grows up to kill him.

We got Guinevere "breaking her vows" with Lancelot and that same bastard son.


We got Merlin being half demon, spawned from a woman after she had a visit from an incubus.

We got Merlin getting sealed inside of a tree by a hot water chick named Ninian.

We got Excalibur having some weird ass Welsh names.

We got Lancelot getting raised by a fairy godmother.

We got some accounts denying Arthur's death.

Phew.

And let's not forget all the stuff about the Fisher King and Grail.

Arthurian Legends are really all just one big clusterf**k of tales cobbled together from different storytellers each trying to make the tale relevant for their time. The elements pushing courtly love to the extreme are by far the weakest parts of the tale and should be taken with a large boulder of salt.

I'm certain at their core there was a "King Arthur" with a steel sword* and an intelligent advisor who attempted to consolidate all the local warlords in order to repel Roman invaders. He was successful for a time but ultimately ended up dying in battle. Anything beyond that is up in the air.

*Steel would have been seen as magical at the time. (500-ish A.D.?) Thus, why the Arthurian legends made such a big deal about it.

[Vyrerus]

Excalibur always had weird names. From its original welsh "Caledfwlch" to the Latinized version of that, "Caliburnus". Excalibur seems to have been popularized by the way the French said it. To their credit, writing or even pronouncing Welsh is an epic of its own.

Pretty sure Mordred didn't even exist originally. Whenever anyone mentioned Arthur having sons, they died really early into their infancy. Which then begs the question: where the hell did the Battle of Camlann even come from??

Lancelot also only existed since Late Medieval Romance, so 1400's, and he's very much written like it. He exists as a foil to Arthur with a "Chivalrous Romance" dynamic with Guinivere. He's not an original canon guy, and the whole infidelity arc was really just to push Romance's views on relationships and knightlyhood. So if he feels weird or off, or at all unrelated to the rest of the myth's message and epicness, you have the French to blame. It's an agenda they pushed.

Merlin got all that because apparently having a cool wizard dude was "too much" for the Christians. So they had to convert him into an antichrist figure born from an Incubus (some sources say the Devil himself), but who chose to defy his evil ancestry and become a badass good guy xD
The mental trips they took just to justify a good guy using magic. And that's before them giving Arthur's main quest being somehow finding the Holy Grail... a magical artifact associated with Jesus Christ who died at Jerusalem... somehow ends up in Britain. Someone had to retake Geography.

Honestly though, the Sword in the Stone might have had some weird influences in how we view King Arthur nowadays, but Japan's currently doing worse. Fate Grand Order's taking it up to eleven. "Camelot" is already pretty weird, but "Avalon le Fae" is an LSD field trip with a good soundtrack xD
The TV show Merlin was good, tho.

Actually Mordred existed with one of the few historical blivits along with Arthur in that they both died at Camlann. His romanticization into what he is in the legends and stuff by the guy from 1130 is all made up, but he's actually been there all along in some capacity

[Kalania]

Excalibur always had weird names. From its original welsh "Caledfwlch" to the Latinized version of that, "Caliburnus". Excalibur seems to have been popularized by the way the French said it. To their credit, writing or even pronouncing Welsh is an epic of its own.

Pretty sure Mordred didn't even exist originally. Whenever anyone mentioned Arthur having sons, they died really early into their infancy. Which then begs the question: where the hell did the Battle of Camlann even come from??

Lancelot also only existed since Late Medieval Romance, so 1400's, and he's very much written like it. He exists as a foil to Arthur with a "Chivalrous Romance" dynamic with Guinivere. He's not an original canon guy, and the whole infidelity arc was really just to push Romance's views on relationships and knightlyhood. So if he feels weird or off, or at all unrelated to the rest of the myth's message and epicness, you have the French to blame. It's an agenda they pushed.

Merlin got all that because apparently having a cool wizard dude was "too much" for the Christians. So they had to convert him into an antichrist figure born from an Incubus (some sources say the Devil himself), but who chose to defy his evil ancestry and become a badass good guy xD
The mental trips they took just to justify a good guy using magic. And that's before them giving Arthur's main quest being somehow finding the Holy Grail... a magical artifact associated with Jesus Christ who died at Jerusalem... somehow ends up in Britain. Someone had to retake Geography.

Honestly though, the Sword in the Stone might have had some weird influences in how we view King Arthur nowadays, but Japan's currently doing worse. Fate Grand Order's taking it up to eleven. "Camelot" is already pretty weird, but "Avalon le Fae" is an LSD field trip with a good soundtrack xD
The TV show Merlin was good, tho.

Merlin was a druid.

Some early texts on druids give them a very bad undeserved rep. (Druids were the educated elite of their day, the brehon; the village leader, the wise old man, etc)