Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[TheMightyMollusk]

The threat meter is not a valid measurement of damage. I've out-aggro'd competent black mages and samurai as a dancer or bard many times.

[Vyrerus]

The threat meter is not a valid measurement of damage. I've out-aggro'd competent black mages and samurai as a dancer or bard many times.

For how long?

Agro works the same way as damage, save for the fact that tanks have enmity multipliers, and also that enmity can generate on all agro'd targets from heals.

On top of that, Enmity on a critical hit is still at 1.1x enmity modifier.

On any singular target, namely bosses, there is no possibility of a Dancer out agroing competent SAMs or BLMs or any of the other DPS that have staggering personal DPS leads on them. At least not for any stellar amount of time. Any job with a lot of spike damage will out agro and out damage other jobs as soon as they spike, but their DPS overtime will level off. If you crit your spike, your enmity might lead for a bit longer, especially if your fellow DPS don't crit their spike. You'll also lead a little longer if you engaged first.

But once you take that into account, then yeah, Enmity as a general rule of thumb is a totally valid measurement of damage. Especially now that pet jobs have their pets hate tied to their master, unlike before.

Like, obviously if you jumped up in enmity due to healing waltz or w/e XIV calls it, then obvs that's not DPS. But healing in general adds less to enmity than damage anyway(barring tank multipliers), so that should be rare outside of 8 man stuff.

Like sure, you can't say definitively that you're out DPSing someone if you're leading them on enmity, but if you're 4 minutes into a boss fight and leading them on enmity with all context taken into account(oh look that lazy SAM hasn't been doing Higanabana this whole fight...) then it's pretty safe metric.

[RyuDragnier]

So damn excited. The final season of Mob Psycho 100 is coming, and they've already released the final opening. It's a massive banger of a song.

[ReynTime]

I stopped complaining about player competence in normal duties. Why? Because I realised due the abhorrent dungeon design I was having more fun when runs didn't feel like the same experience all the time. Now I welcome players screwing up or still learning.

[Rannie]

I just wanted to let everyone know that frozen Grapes... are awesome... thank you that is all *walks away*

[Misplaced_Marbles]

I just wanted to let everyone know that frozen Grapes... are awesome... thank you that is all *walks away*

I hear Hrothgar and Viera players love sour grapes.

[Vyrerus]

Frozen solid or just like... super cold? ?

[Rannie]

Frozen solid of course... I'd jump into a volcano for some frozen grapes... though... they'd be unthawed by then If they were IN the volcano

[RobynDaBank]

I am so ready for new Path of Exile league. The hype is real...

[RicaRuin]

When it comes to grapes, I'm a weapon of mass destruction. Bought a package of red grapes yesterday and instead of sparing some for today, I ate all of them during inventory management. :/

However, I rearranged the retainers that hold Gear. I picked out the pieces I definitely or maybe want in the Glamour dresser, and I'll only have 470/800 after the expansion.