Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[SturmChurro]

I had gotten threats about being reported over the years too. I had no issues for a long time, until I logged on one day, and noticed I had some warning for "grief tactics".

I just really hope society sees a return to a 'live and let live' mentality combined with 'just use the ignore button' in such scenarios in the future.

I think it'll only end up getting worse.

Yep ;-; I also had the tea emote on a loop macro. I felt really bad after realizing the spam I have caused in chat!

Why isn‘t the tea emote on a loop to begin with SE.

Getting a "warning" for this is a little much, in my opinion. I mean, in the context of what a "warning" is in this game. This just means if something ever happens, however minor, that is an automatic strike on your account. I could understand a GM giving you a warning if it was actually a warning. I've never really agreed with harsh enforcement.

[Lauront]

I'd imagine that a lot of people don't like conflict or the potential of conflict, so this is their way of dealing with a problem without having to actually deal with the situation themselves. They ignore the other solution, that being actually communicating with someone to address an issue, even if it takes significantly less time. Passive aggressiveness is par for this community's course most days when a problem arises.

I wonder if they're the same people who'll go and muse on reddit about how suffering is necessary, while even a simple conversation terrifies them? Just an idle musing.

[Kolsykol]

So...
Uh...
Apparently Blizzard has a '' diversity tool '' that calculates how '' diverse '' characters are in their games now... This is so dystopian lol.

https://www.activisionblizzard.com/n...ity-space-tool

How in the hell does this even work and how is it calculated?
How do you calculate diversity for body type?
Something tells me that well-endowed women wouldn't be counted as more diverse but they should be because they're more rare ( and Overwatch basically has none too ).

Is it just me too or does it kinda come across as bizarrely racist to judge some cultures as '' more diverse '' compared to each other especially in a global context?
It's like some weird exoticism and like how do you even judge this?
Is Egypt '' more diverse '' than South Africa?

I think Western devs have just lost their minds...
How can someone put this together and not grasp how insane it is?
It honestly comes across like an April first joke only that it isn't and it's 100% serious.

[Theodric]

When you view the belief systems that give rise to such thinking as a cult, it makes a lot more sense. Personally, as a gay guy, I have no interest in seeing every game end up having a gay character in it. I'd rather see developers focus on making interesting and enjoyable games without worrying about treating everything like a quota to fulfil.

[Lauront]

I think Western devs have just lost their minds...
How can someone put this together and not grasp how insane it is?
It honestly comes across like an April first joke only that it isn't and it's 100% serious.

Yeah, they're 43 days or so late with it. It's pathetic.

[Kolsykol]

When you view the belief systems that give rise to such thinking as a cult, it makes a lot more sense. Personally, as a gay guy, I have no interest in seeing every game end up having a gay character in it. I'd rather see developers focus on making interesting and enjoyable games without worrying about treating everything like a quota to fulfil.

Yeah it just strikes me as insane levels of overcompensation lol.
I mean I am exaggerating now but it has this weird eugenics feel to it, like we're really at the point where we're scoring people based on these types of characteristics?

I just kinda feel sorry for the sane devs, I don't think this is actually a widely approved of thing I think most people are just scared of speaking out against it because they don't want to get fired and I imagine certain people just run rampant at the office ( especially after the controversies at Blizzard ).
Like imagine actually working with these kinds of people who unironically not only push for these things but develop them.

It's not like I think having more diversity is a bad thing, but this is like taking it to some absurd and downright creepy levels.

[SturmChurro]

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I won't get too detailed on these forums, but basically, yes, I do believe it is pretty racist in general.

It's not like I think having more diversity is a bad thing, but this is like taking it to some absurd and downright creepy levels.

It's not, when it's done right. It's just usually ham-fisted, and done for 'the sake of 'diversity'. It's done like it's a scoreboard of how many diversity 'points' they can get. As an example, of ways it's done right, I like how races in Elder Scrolls are done. It's diverse, and it makes sense in the setting. I'd rather they celebrate any particular race's culture, rather than appropriate.

[Kolsykol]

I won't get too detailed on these forums, but basically, yes, I do believe it is pretty racist in general.

It's not, when it's done right. It's just usually ham-fisted, and done for 'the sake of 'diversity'. It's done like it's a scoreboard of how many diversity 'points' they can get. As an example, of ways it's done right, I like how races in Elder Scrolls are done. It's diverse, and it makes sense in the setting. I'd rather they celebrate any particular race's culture, rather than appropriate.

Something that always bothers me a little too is how often they erase real historical people and just change the race of other characters...
Like why does Memnon and the Ethiopians keep being erased from the Siege of Troy lol?
Why make Achilles black when you literally have an entire army to depict?

And also how one-sided it is, you have whether it's historical or fictional people that are clearly based on medieval Europe and they're more representative of modern day USA.
But then you have another people in the same setting set in the Middle East or Africa and they're all dark-skinned.
I don't even have a problem with mixing in fictional settings, but ffs make it consistent then???
It's just bullshit when it's totally one-sided.

But yeah I actually think it'd be really interesting to get more movies for example dealing with history from other regions of the world.
It'd also feel more fresh and new, but instead they just take the same stuff that has been done a billion times and recast.

[Vahlnir]

Yeah it just strikes me as insane levels of overcompensation lol.
I mean I am exaggerating now but it has this weird eugenics feel to it, like we're really at the point where we're scoring people based on these types of characteristics?

I just kinda feel sorry for the sane devs, I don't think this is actually a widely approved of thing I think most people are just scared of speaking out against it because they don't want to get fired and I imagine certain people just run rampant at the office ( especially after the controversies at Blizzard ).
Like imagine actually working with these kinds of people who unironically not only push for these things but develop them.

It's not like I think having more diversity is a bad thing, but this is like taking it to some absurd and downright creepy levels.

They are trying to boost their image after years of fostering a hellish workplace. That's all. Unfortunately for them, that is a permanent stain on their reputation. No amount of "diversity" is ever going to make that right, especially when every gesture is as hollow as this one.

[Thaciscokidd]

They are trying to boost their image after years of fostering a hellish workplace. That's all. Unfortunately for them, that is a permanent stain on their reputation. No amount of "diversity" is ever going to make that right, especially when every gesture is as hollow as this one.

That's the price of doing business in America. ActiBlizz isn't the first and won't be the last. You can do just about anything and if you prove that you are trying most people will forgive and forget.

And honestly the fact that we can at least Whistleblow here is a good thing. People tend to not know that most Eastern(Japan included) countries have laws in place that even if you are telling the truth, that if you bring a negative light on a company they can sue you for Defamation.