Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[SturmChurro]

I really hate it when my outlook on many people in real life turns out to be true. I generally am very cautious around others, and from my life experiences, I typically expect the worst from people, and they usually exceed what I expected to be the 'worst'. My grandmother came to me today, crying, about how she didn't want to tell me, but she has been being used, for her money - which I told her is exactly what would happen prior. I won't go into specifics, but it really doesn't feel good when you are right about something like this.

[Larirawiel]

Asmongold explains how streaming works and from where the money comes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Tf5L4lOuw




Cheers

[SturmChurro]

If this game had more *quality* outfits, and collectibles to earn, that would be more than enough to keep me playing regularly. I just want to glamour, and work towards glamours, and some other collectibles like mounts truthfully. It'd have to have some sort of lasting content to facilitate this however. Those glamours I saw in a YouTube thumbnail, really got me excited to play, just for all that. I am not a hard player to please when it comes down to it. Just the fact that I like Lost Ark, and dumped $150 this month in anticipation of skins, is all anyone needs to know what I like in these kind of games.

[Kolsykol]

I went ahead and bought TW Warhammer 3, I had put it off since no blood DLC ( yes that's a thing rofl ) and no Immortal Empires ( big sandbox map with ALL of the factions ).
I just really wanted to play the Daemons tho.
It honestly looks pretty silly without blood especially Khorne who are all about blood and violence, you have literal rivers of blood in the background but then the units look like toy figures bumping into each other lol.

Either way I am still enjoying it, I've been thinking of getting into the PvP side of things in the TW Warhammer games too.
I probably have like 2k hours in total in the games but never touched the PvP but I love to watch the tournaments being streamed.

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You're missing my point a bit, I am aware that cheese and such has always existed, just not to the extent as in Elden Ring.
And it also didn't feel borderline mandatory or like you severely gimped yourself as much for not using a handful of weapons.
Radagon does indeed read inputs but he's not behaving like a Sekiro boss ( altho Elden Beast was more fun imo ), I am also aware of the glitch with him too and that you can cheese him but I don't think that Radagon actually incentives you to do so as heavily and severely as other bosses do.
It's not only about reading inputs it's about how they act on it when they do.
There's bosses in the late game especially where you literally have to guess if it's safe or not, because the boss can choose to extend their combo if you hit them and it won't be avoidable you'll be animation locked.
I don't think that leaving it up to RNG whether it's safe to actually attack or not is good design either.
And even if you wait for their full combo to be done 100% they can choose to instantly start a new one immediately when you hit them and you're just screwed.

I am not saying that it isn't designed to be this way what I am saying is that it's poor design and it SEVERELY punishes you for playing melee with almost every weapon.
And when people criticize the boss design the response is often '' just use this glitch bro '', which is totally missing the entire point and is essentially admitting that yes the bosses are poorly designed and instead you should be using glitches or all of these new things so that you don't actually have to do the fight.
People shouldn't feel compelled to go and use a weapon that shoots a laser that kills bosses in seconds after they entered the room or to use a glitch or shoot bosses from miles away without aggroing them to death.

I mean... "I must be able to fight every boss with a wet noodle, making every fight an elegant dance of attrition where I eventually win due to dodge mastery."
Yes?
Cheesing and completely borked weapons, summoning etc has been there to help people who aren't very good or are just having a rough time with a certain boss.
There's not a problem with that, there is a problem when the devs design things to heavily incentivize it with artificial difficulty.
Artificial difficulty is rarely a good thing imo and Elden Ring is full to the brim with it.

Edit: Even a lot of these dodge gods so to speak still have to spend like 9 minutes on a boss WITH Bleed weapons and aren't actually dodging the boss a lot of the time, but are just baiting attacks and sprinting away.
And these are top tier players.

When you say '' encourage '' I think you're putting it very mildly and are being incredibly generous.
I fail to see how what you're describing is more stale and boring too than running in with a Mimic and spamming left trigger, it's essentially just borderline enforcing ranged builds or a handful of weapons it's actually MORE limiting.

[Cincierta]

I've come to the conclusion that 99.99% of the people out there clean their teeth before heading to the dentist.

I probably should stop thinking hard about some things in life.

[AziraSyuren]

I still think Elden Ring has the worst design in FromSoft's catalogue, and I'm someone who has no problem using broken or "unfair" tactics in order to win.

I like being able to fight bosses in many different ways without feeling completely overwhelmed, and so far, Elden Ring is their only game that's failed at that for me. Everything else about the game is wonderful and a huge step forward, especially their level design, which is finally back to being as good as Dark Souls 1's. But their boss design? Trash. Only DS2's was worse.

[Kolsykol]

This is FFXIV related but still, Mikepreachwow's FC put together a theatre piece of his journey through ARR it's pretty incredible what they managed to do really shows what creative people can accomplish in FFXIV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVTz1RlaDrU&t=2816s

I still think Elden Ring has the worst design in FromSoft's catalogue, and I'm someone who has no problem using broken or "unfair" tactics in order to win.

I like being able to fight bosses in many different ways without feeling completely overwhelmed, and so far, Elden Ring is their only game that's failed at that for me. Everything else about the game is wonderful and a huge step forward, especially their level design, which is finally back to being as good as Dark Souls 1's. But their boss design? Trash. Only DS2's was worse.

I rly think a lot of people just looked up stuff to use on Google/ Youtube and they never got the actual experience of having to actually fight the bosses and don't know exactly how bad it gets.
I don't think that just because something is in a game or can be done that it means it's good either or necessarily intended.
Rivers of Blood's Bleed build up ignoring i-frames in PvP I don't think is intended, people who use it will defend it tho by saying that they're just using what's there so it's not a big deal and it's fine it's just part of the game etc.

If you play Dark Souls 1 as a Pyromancer and just run away and throw Fireballs at bosses then I think it's rather silly to tell people it's not a problem if someone who used a Longsword is upset because the boss was extending/ starting up combos after it read your input solely for the sake of screwing you.
Turning it into complete RNG and out of your hands whether you can even touch the boss or not.
Even if you watch a lot of the top tier players play they're still using a select few weapons and just run away and abuse the ai to sneak hits in and it often takes forever to kill them because they're essentially cheesing them in a way too even if it's not as blatant.
It kinda feels like a lot of the bosses were designed with the intent of putting in the parry system from Sekiro but they just never did.

The bosses were incredible on a visual level they sure were a spectacle, but they were some of the least fun in the series to actually fight.
The world design tho was incredible yeah, it's rly hard to impress me with that especially in open world games but Elden Ring did.

[RyuDragnier]

I still think Elden Ring has the worst design in FromSoft's catalogue, and I'm someone who has no problem using broken or "unfair" tactics in order to win.

I like being able to fight bosses in many different ways without feeling completely overwhelmed, and so far, Elden Ring is their only game that's failed at that for me. Everything else about the game is wonderful and a huge step forward, especially their level design, which is finally back to being as good as Dark Souls 1's. But their boss design? Trash. Only DS2's was worse.

Elden Ring is actually their vision for DS2 perfected. They originally wanted a heavier usage of lighting, a sprawling open world, etc etc for DS2, but technology wasn't good enough back then.

[Caurcas]

Elden Ring as a fantasy world and a gaming experience is top notch, but the balance in the last 1/3 of the game is pretty bad.

[SturmChurro]

Got off the phone with my internet provider AGAIN. I am so sick and tired of this. Like, oh my God.. Luckily I hadn't started doing PvP again yet, otherwise I'd have dced from that most definitely. A tech is scheduled to come out on Monday. Guaranteed nothing is going to come out of this next visit. I wonder what they will try and replace this time.

Lost connection again as I am writing this. You can't make this up.

This is a copy and paste. I typed this out about 10 minutes ago.