Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[Yencat]

They look fit, or athletic, like females. Not strongmen, more like they do cardio. I think they are going to be shorter, but slightly, more like Hyur height I'd guess.

They may well be, I have no preference one way or the other. But the room background looks superimposed vs. him actually being there, so it's hard to judge how short or tall they will be exactly.

We'll have to wait and see, since they are uncoupled from hrothgar now. Even so, if viera as a race are still getting racial specific styles, even if they do unisex we are probably going to be waiting awhile for them. The hat thing will definitely never change.

I tend to agree, I would have rather had the current iterations more 'fixed' than piling on the problems. We will have to wait and see. I have seen some arguments that it was better to add them early, for less work fitting gear in the future. I always expected they would add them at some point, so that is a valid argument.

I'm withholding judgement until Fan Fest is actually over, but it'll be massively disappointing if they just hop-skip over it again. Everyone is getting excited for a potential engine upgrade in 7.0 when they might be able to do this stuff easier, but by then it's been 4+ years? For some hair?

[BunniEclair]

No, I’m not upset they are short. I’m saying people who wanted smaller female viera were flamed on these forums. They were upset there wasn’t a smaller female version. Viera are tall, go play miqote. Now, if males get to be smaller than the female version, I guarantee people who wanted to be a smaller female version will be mad.

Let em be mad. The models look great and they don’t look too terribly small. I’ve seen height comparisons to female viera but we don’t know what size model they used in the video...but I’ll guess mid height.

I don’t think, given that Yoship was so focused on expanding choice and wanting to give something different, that he’d make the other kemonomimi a catboy clone.

[Savagelf]

male viera are coming congra to those who fought for them

[SturmChurro]

They may well be, I have no preference one way or the other. But the room background looks superimposed vs. him actually being there, so it's hard to judge how short or tall they will be exactly.



I'm withholding judgement until Fan Fest is actually over, but it'll be massively disappointing if they just hop-skip over it again. Everyone is getting excited for a potential engine upgrade in 7.0 when they might be able to do this stuff easier, but by then it's been 4+ years? For some hair?

We can only assume that the shown males were average (50?) height, but there is no real point of reference. Maybe if someone did something similar to that image someone shared earlier with a female/and male on the bed, and did it over and over again with characters of different heights until they had an even match. Even then we would have to wait until the benchmark, I suppose.

Same, I have my hopes up right now though, since people are saying they said they would have hair.. not that I know where they are getting their information. Yeah, I don't think an engine upgrade is really necessary for something like hair, considering they have been adding hairs constistently over the course of ShB, but it would supposedly make the implementation of new races easier, or future gear fitting, so maybe resources freed for hair... Though, now that they have added the equivalent of another full race this expansion, the resources that could have been used to create hairs prior and during EW are going to be used to fit gear... what a cycle.. 4+ years of waiting would really suck.

What if they do something like, make the male viera hairs usable my females, and vice versa.. "here's your new hairs"? I would cry.

[Yencat]

Maybe if someone did something similar to that image someone shared earlier with a female/and male on the bed, and did it over and over again with characters of different heights until they had an even match.

Yeah, but I don't think he's actually in that room with the bed though, it looks "green screened" behind him rather than the model actually being in the room. So yeah, definitely would need the benchmark before anyone freaks out over this lol

Same, I have my hopes up right now though, since people are saying they said they would have hair.. not that I know where they are getting their information. Yeah, I don't think an engine upgrade is really necessary for something like hair, considering they have been adding hairs constistently over the course of ShB, but it would supposedly make the implementation of new races easier, or future gear fitting, so maybe resources freed for hair... Though, now that they have added the equivalent of another full race this expansion, the resources that could have been used to create hairs prior and during EW are going to be used to fit gear... what a cycle.. 4+ years of waiting would really suck.

I haven't seen that anywhere myself, but I hope that information is right. I'm genuinely happy for people that wanted male Viera (and female Hrothgar, since that's also confirmed) but I just want some more damn hairstyles. Before November as well, please? Is that greedy and entitled?

What if they do something like, make the male viera hairs usable my females, and vice versa.. "here's your new hairs"? I would cry.

I kind of like this one, but otherwise I'm gonna have to say hard pass on just sharing all of them.

[Y2K21]

Glad male viera got added -- but they should have been there on launch. Im still not impressed that we have to wait longer for SE to finally finish races they put into the game 2 years ago.

But thats just me.

[Penthea]

I like the way they look. I have no issues with that. I don’t think female viera look more muscular either. They look athletic. The issue is just going to be the fairness with the height, just because it has already been something players were upset about. I anticipate a huge backlash from it. I am hoping they are just the same height as females so it’s not an issue at all, but they look small.

Honestly it's impossible to please everyone. Someone will be unhappy.

And personally I'm with the "you have miqos" for the small viera subject. I would be very happy if we got a smaller viera race, but the fact is they wouldn't be filling in a gap. Miqos already fill the "not very tall race with fuzzy ears" gap. I think SE, at least right now, are more interested in filling in gaps than just giving us different flavours of something we already have.

[Raikai]

No, I’m not upset they are short. I’m saying people who wanted smaller female viera were flamed on these forums. They were upset there wasn’t a smaller female version. Viera are tall, go play miqote. Now, if males get to be smaller than the female version, I guarantee people who wanted to be a smaller female version will be mad.

Honestly, every decision is bound to make a group unhappy... Let it be job design, aesthetics, etc. They could, however, have had a height difference between Rava and Veena Viera, but they didn't do that for when females were released

[Lanadra]

Glad male viera got added -- but they should have been there on launch. Im still not impressed that we have to wait longer for SE to finally finish races they put into the game 2 years ago.

But thats just me.

Serves to remember that such was a compromise. It was either one race with two genders, or two races with one gender each. Iirc they went with the most popular pick for both. Time and resources are not infinite.

[Wyssahtyn]

Time and resources are not infinite.

bUt ThEy'Re A mUlTiMiLlIiOn DoLlAr CoMpAnY!!!!!