Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

[tehneyrzomb]

So I have some concerns regarding the interview posted... And it seems even Yoshi P is not missing the point per say- but maybe over shooting the ask.
Whether lost in translation or interpretation

To me, it feels like a non-answer. Like almost an answer, but also not really an answer. I mean I think I can understand not wanting to get player's hopes up, but it just is angering. I know the dev team works hard and cares about the game. But all we want to for the new stuff to be used by Viera and Hrothgar. There are older things I'd love to use, but I'm more focused on the new things coming out and consistently not being usable by both Viera and Hrothgar.

[LuciaMirain]

To me, it feels like a non-answer. Like almost an answer, but also not really an answer. I mean I think I can understand not wanting to get player's hopes up, but it just is angering. I know the dev team works hard and cares about the game. But all we want to for the new stuff to be used by Viera and Hrothgar. There are older things I'd love to use, but I'm more focused on the new things coming out and consistently not being usable by both Viera and Hrothgar.

The new things being tied to content as an incentive to do it is what irks me. What is the point of running bozja for the hair when I cant use it? sure I can sell it, but....I want to use it and it is a big incentive for alot of people to get the hair to use it.

[LuciaMirain]

So I have some concerns regarding the interview posted... And it seems even Yoshi P is not missing the point per say- but maybe over shooting the ask.
Whether lost in translation or interpretation: Please see RED



I feel the focus is on the fact that we want all the hair styles, and all the hats- which while nice and a pipe dream- isn't exactly what we have been asking for. We've really only been asking for hairstyles that are either the race specific promised to Veira and Hrothgar- or that the new released hairstyles that have come out with the new expansion be useable or modified for them.

I apologize if I seem off base ( but I say this as I have a career in development- before I get a you know nothing Forum poster snow)….but if we have been waiting 2+ years because they have been trying to figure out cost and how to do all hair styles...Pretty sure it would have saved time, money, and headache to just instead implement a couple unique hairs here and there.

Also I just dont believe them that it is this huge thing to implement hairstyles for vieras. Hrothgars? Sure I can believe that. But vieras? How difficult would it be to give female viera, the males hairstyles, really? I am hoping that male vieras are coming that female vieras are released from being paired with hrothgars in the development department. I sincerely do hope that Hrothgars get something too.

[tehneyrzomb]

The new things being tied to content as an incentive to do it is what irks me. What is the point of running bozja for the hair when I cant use it? sure I can sell it, but....I want to use it and it is a big incentive for alot of people to get the hair to use it.

I've stopped rushing to do content because of this to be completely honest. In Stormblood, a new holiday or content dropped and I'd be on it like a fly on shit. I'd have all new glam sets planned out for my Au'Ra and was always really excited. Now, I just barely finish holidays on the last few days (or hours) and I'm not jumping at doing Bozja.

[Yencat]

How difficult would it be to give female viera, the males hairstyles, really?

I guess I'll go against the grain and say I hope they don't that and focus on bringing the modern aesthetics over instead.

Every race/gender combination has their own set of exclusive styles and it would only serve to cheapen viera further to pawn off the male hairstyles to the females and the female styles to the males.

[Fukuro]

I guess I'll go against the grain and say I hope they don't that and focus on bringing the modern aesthetics over instead.

Every race/gender combination has their own set of exclusive styles and it would only serve to cheapen viera further to pawn off the male hairstyles to the females and the female styles to the males.

i agree. i‘m pretty sure if m and f viera would share all hairstyles and they would implement racial hairstyles for both of the genders, they probably would go the lazy rout and just add unisex hairstyles for both of them. unisex hairstyles in my opinion most of the time seem to be more on the feminine side, people who prefer to play male characters often sit at the shorter end of the lever...

[Kalcia]

I'm honestly disgusted that after ALL this time, vieras and hrothgars didn't get any new hairstyles, that SE hasn't updated gear to fit their heads either.
Instead what does SE do? Go and spends money and time creating extra race that will come as unfinished as these two.
New hairstyles being released, just not for those two races. And why not? Cause not enough people make angry noises cause not enough people play them, so SE ignores them.
Anyone know how can I get money back I spent on Yshtola hairstyle that I can't use?

[tehneyrzomb]

Oooooh boy, who's ready to be more upset?

This article was released 3 hours ago. "FFXIV Male Viera Made in ‘Free Time’ Between ‘Normal Work on Patches’"

They spent over half a year using what free time they had in between their normal work on the patches to consider ways to add another playable race. From this they concluded that we could probably squeeze in just one more at this time.

Adding a playable race does not end with just the initial resources needed to create the race (i.e. character modeling; preparations for variations in facial features, hairstyles and head shapes; animations that are unique to each race, etc.). Even following initial implementation, the tasks required with each patch update will multiply. For example, when we implemented the Viera, because their ears are very long, we needed to add a new review flow to check how Viera characters would appear on screen in all cutscenes. Of course, gear you can obtain as you play through the game will also need to be fitted to match the body shapes of the Viera and Hrothgar, and whenever we add emote animations, there will always be two additional sets to consider compared to what we had to do up until this point. This is something that we as a development team need to put effort into, but if these tasks multiply too much, it could cause critical damage to the interval between major updates.

I am just kinda baffled here. Honestly and truly baffled. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad male Vieras (and later female Hrothgars) will be implemented into the game but ooooh boy. The previous problems current players of these races should've been addressed. I appreciate the dev team working hard to add male Vieras, but why was the time not spent on letting us use the new hairstyles and hats? Why is this all being so nonchalantly not addressed properly?

[tehneyrzomb]

Also, just another thought to add to all of this that I've recalled.

If they can implement Yoko Taro's booty legs set AND fix the clipping issue with it, why can't we have headgear and hairstyles for Viera and Hrothgar? I'm pretty pissed off right now after these two recent articles.

[Yencat]

Also, just another thought to add to all of this that I've recalled.

If they can implement Yoko Taro's booty legs set AND fix the clipping issue with it, why can't we have headgear and hairstyles for Viera and Hrothgar? I'm pretty pissed off right now after these two recent articles.

Don't get too worked up about it, he rarely volunteers information unless asked specifically and clearly about a topic.

He kept repeating they didn't have the resources to do male Viera or female Hrothgar the entire time, long past the point where they would've already been working on or maybe even finished male Viera. It's entirely possible they're further along on the hairstyle issue than he's letting on right now.

It's a bit annoying everything has to be kept quiet to be a surprise reveal later down the line but it is what it is.