Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
Relic stuff should NOT require some of the hardest content that the segment has to offer.

That's like requiring the DoW relic to complete savage level content in order to finish it.

IMHO this is bad design.
You're almost an entire patch late to complain about this, y'know? The most recent DoH relic step already required expert recipes.

The fact that the required expert recipes can be learned from the 8th-level master recipe books already makes it clear that these (likely) aren't part of the DoH relics anyway, considering the recipes needed for those relics have their own tab (Ishgard Restoration -> Skysteel Tools). Not to mention how they're obtained in Eulmore, so there's absolutely no link with Ishgard.