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    I know what it is... We will be equipping the Ish DoH MH relic, and glamouring it with the Eulmore Resplendent version. Then, we can sit in Kugane, flashing MH like a neon sign on Route 66... "Eat at Joe's"... "Eat at Joe's"...

    Sorry, one of those days -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxcrafter View Post
    I know what it is... We will be equipping the Ish DoH MH relic, and glamouring it with the Eulmore Resplendent version. Then, we can sit in Kugane, flashing MH like a neon sign on Route 66... "Eat at Joe's"... "Eat at Joe's"...

    Sorry, one of those days -

    Shooter
    I guess... what's bad about it?
    Relics were the "hardest" crafts along with the Ishgard things, but you can craft pretty much everything else with basic melds on a crafter gear. These additions are just bonuses to collect. We don't need stat improvements at this time of the expansion. So they can only provide glamour / achievement in that respect.

    But I do agree that the off hand tools could have got some attention too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    I guess... what's bad about it?
    Relics were the "hardest" crafts along with the Ishgard things, but you can craft pretty much everything else with basic melds on a crafter gear. These additions are just bonuses to collect. We don't need stat improvements at this time of the expansion.
    It depends.

    1) If they have stats on them that are better than the relics, they invalidated months of work for the DoH relics.

    2) If they don't have stats on them: Pentamelded Neo-Asthete's weapons are better than the current relics so that basically invalidates the relics (they were obtainable a while before the current relic step)

    So your options on the relic are either

    A) Spend time creating a relic that is subpar to a fully penta melded craftable item. This is counter to what the relic is supposed to be. At the end of the expansion the relic is supposed to be the best weapon you can have

    B) Spend millions of gil attempting to pentameld a crafted item.

    C) Don't really care either way and just buy the white scrip gear or buy /craft the Aesthete's and don't penta meld it. You don't NEED to anyway to make current crafts.

    IMHO the crafting relic has been underwhelming the entire expansion. I hope the do better (if they do) next time.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
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    Oh ok, I see what you mean. I thought last step Skysteel tools were better than pentameld actually...

    But in the end, my point still stands; what would you need more stats for anyway? (which can be said for all gear in FFXIV, as a matter of fact, but that isn't the question). I think Skysteel tools were more a progression building feature, but stats don't matter so much in the end, given how you can pretty much craft everything with anything. Just like combat relic ends up being better than Savage weapon, but you don't have anything to do with it by the end of the expansion. They are a form of grinding towards cosmetics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    I guess... what's bad about it?
    Relics were the "hardest" crafts along with the Ishgard things, but you can craft pretty much everything else with basic melds on a crafter gear. These additions are just bonuses to collect. We don't need stat improvements at this time of the expansion. So they can only provide glamour / achievement in that respect.

    But I do agree that the off hand tools could have got some attention too.
    What came across to me as bad, was that unless something startling in terms of Resplendent specs appears tomorrow, the Resplendent series seems very much like poor use of developmental resource; almost like it was forced for some reason. Put another way, why on Earth muck with your settled top class (relic) slot, just before the next expansion? Ofc, many times in the past we've been surprised by things of this sort, so for now, Tuesday holds the answer. I just hope like the dickens it does not turn out to be a stuck pig; wrong about this is a good thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxcrafter View Post
    What came across to me as bad, was that unless something startling in terms of Resplendent specs appears tomorrow, the Resplendent series seems very much like poor use of developmental resource; almost like it was forced for some reason. Put another way, why on Earth muck with your settled top class (relic) slot, just before the next expansion? Ofc, many times in the past we've been surprised by things of this sort, so for now, Tuesday holds the answer. I just hope like the dickens it does not turn out to be a stuck pig; wrong about this is a good thing!

    Shooter
    It seems like the equivalent of implementing Blessed tools and putting them behind something meaningful and reasonable to achieve other than doing an obscene amount of unique recipes in your crafting log. These tools got more and more obnoxious as time went by; so with some luck, these will be the successor to the Blessed Tools. Especially as exhibited by the absence of "I Made That VII"

    New achievements and titles have been added.
    If you have already fulfilled the requirements for the new achievements prior to the release of Patch 5.5, they will be awarded upon accessing them in the Achievements menu.
    I Found That: Miner VII
    I Found That: Botanist VII
    I Caught That VII
    My only issue is why not incorporate something like offhand glamour, or bench glamour, or even emotions associated with the class as opposed to doing another series of flashy tools.

    Don't expect much. .i500 scrip equivalent tool.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 04-13-2021 at 03:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxcrafter View Post
    What came across to me as bad, was that unless something startling in terms of Resplendent specs appears tomorrow, the Resplendent series seems very much like poor use of developmental resource; almost like it was forced for some reason. Put another way, why on Earth muck with your settled top class (relic) slot, just before the next expansion? Ofc, many times in the past we've been surprised by things of this sort, so for now, Tuesday holds the answer. I just hope like the dickens it does not turn out to be a stuck pig; wrong about this is a good thing!

    Shooter
    I think the Resplendent tools might be intended as the crafting equivalent to the Ultimate weapons (you've got to know what you're doing to get them), while the relic tools are the equivalent to the relic weapons (everyone willing to grind can get them). We'll know better once we get to see the new recipes and turn in requirements.

    They seem to be trying to figure out what "hardcore" crafters want for end game crafting rewards. The Skyward Point titles and Pteranodon mount didn't gain much favor as rewards. "Shiny tools" was one of the suggestions in the threads made last year on the subject so now they're trying shiny tools to see what reaction they get in practice. I'm not into shiny tools myself so I'm not feeling motivated by their addition (though I am still working toward the mount) but others likely will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Yeah thats a big bummer, but kinda makes since. A majority of large housing walls have some kind of balcony while med and smalls pretty much never do, oh well.
    Yeah I know right.
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    So if I downloaded the PS4 version to my PS5 do I need to delete that and then download the PS5 version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    So if I downloaded the PS4 version to my PS5 do I need to delete that and then download the PS5 version?
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a3f17d34ce486b

    Instructions on how to proceed are here.
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