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    Resplendent tools have been added for Disciples of the Hand.
    These main hand tools can be acquired after crafting and submitting items from certain expert recipes.

    Tool Exchange
    The required materials must be exchanged with Limbeth in Eulmore (X:11.6 Y:10.9) to receive a resplendent tool.
    It should be noted that more than one expert recipe will be required to prepare all necessary materials. The number and types of material required can be confirmed by speaking with Limbeth.

    * Expert recipes can be learned from 8th-level master recipe books.
    Relic stuff should NOT require some of the hardest content that the segment has to offer.

    That's like requiring the DoW relic to complete savage level content in order to finish it.

    IMHO this is bad design.


    Quote Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza View Post
    No more getting Satasha as a party of all 70+ now in Leveling Roulette.

    The meme is now ded.
    Meme is very much still alive if you use leveling roulette. The change only applies to pre-formed parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Relic stuff should NOT require some of the hardest content that the segment has to offer.

    That's like requiring the DoW relic to complete savage level content in order to finish it.

    IMHO this is bad design.




    Meme is very much still alive if you use leveling roulette. The change only applies to pre-formed parties.
    The relic being easy never should have happened in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The relic being easy never should have happened in the first place.
    If these Resplendent are Relics, they're what, higher level than the present 510 Skybuilder's Relics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxcrafter View Post
    If these Resplendent are Relics, they're what, higher level than the present 510 Skybuilder's Relics?

    Shooter
    Good thing they aren't relics. The relics are the Skybuilder's tools that required the quest chain that took them through the steps Skysteel-Dragonsung-Skysung-Skybuilder.

    These are new tools that part of the crafting community asked to receive as a reward for doing the hardest crafting in the game. We don't even know that these tools will have stats on them. They may be purely cosmetic.

    Personally I would have preferred getting secondary tools to complement the Skybuilder tools as the Expert reward but oh well.

    Quote Originally Posted by SavishSalacious View Post
    Only 6 MSQ? Sadness, I was hoping for 20 since its a two parter. Ill be done this in like 10 minutes (JK, I actually read the story and pay attention, unlike the "skippers")
    Need to remember this is only part of what we're getting for MSQ. The other half will come in 5.55 and those quests will be listed in the 5.55 patch notes.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 04-11-2021 at 03:49 AM.

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    Ayup; a set of matching Offhands for the Dragonsung stuff would have been cool. Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The relic being easy never should have happened in the first place.
    You do realize there's an ocean of difference between being easy and being the hardest content that segment of the game has to offer right?

    But I guess not in this world where it's only black or white.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxcrafter View Post
    If these Resplendent are Relics, they're what, higher level than the present 510 Skybuilder's Relics?

    Shooter
    And if they're higher ilvl than the relics. . . doesn't that negate the entire DOH relic process of this expansion? The entire point of a relic is you build the best weapon the expansion has to offer over a longer period of time.

    Right now the Penta-melded HQ Aesthete's is better than the current Relic. The next step was supposed to make the relic beat that item. Guess not.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 04-10-2021 at 09:30 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post

    Meme is very much still alive if you use leveling roulette. The change only applies to pre-formed parties.
    Do we know it's only pre-formed? The patch notes don't specify but they do mention only the leader's settings matter, so that does sound like pre-formed. I hope so, since I wouldn't want to be forced to do just ShB duties all the time in Leveling just because I'm 80 and get matched with other 80s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Do we know [if Limited Leveling Roulette is] only pre-formed?
    Yes, the patch notes say you have to have a complete party to use the Limited Leveling Roulette setting:
    Quote Originally Posted by 5.5 Preliminary Patch Notes
    • Parties must meet minimum size requirements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Relic stuff should NOT require some of the hardest content that the segment has to offer.

    That's like requiring the DoW relic to complete savage level content in order to finish it.

    IMHO this is bad design.




    Meme is very much still alive if you use leveling roulette. The change only applies to pre-formed parties.
    Expert crafts really aren't that hard... monotonous certainly, hard not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Relic stuff should NOT require some of the hardest content that the segment has to offer.

    That's like requiring the DoW relic to complete savage level content in order to finish it.

    IMHO this is bad design.
    You're almost an entire patch late to complain about this, y'know? The most recent DoH relic step already required expert recipes.

    The fact that the required expert recipes can be learned from the 8th-level master recipe books already makes it clear that these (likely) aren't part of the DoH relics anyway, considering the recipes needed for those relics have their own tab (Ishgard Restoration -> Skysteel Tools). Not to mention how they're obtained in Eulmore, so there's absolutely no link with Ishgard.
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