Wrongfully banned. Need help

[Merrnryn]

You might have been banned for using bad language. Even if it isn't aimed at anyone in particular and even accounting for the mature language filter...if somebody sees it and reports it, you will absolutely be punished for it.

I know a lot of people who choose to play it safe, myself included, by keeping dialogue with other players to a bare minimum. It makes the game much quieter, but it also doesn't risk losing a considerable amount of invested time and money.

No one should ever have to play like this. There is something seriously wrong with a community where it's players are afraid to speak and be social. I think it's about time the player base AND SE staff, from producer to GM's looks at their game and realizes the system in place is toxic. There is a reasonable person clause in the ToS for a VERY good reason, it is about time the GM's learn what it is and remain objective rather than outright punishing people.

[Shin96]

No one should ever have to play like this. There is something seriously wrong with a community where it's players are afraid to speak and be social. I think it's about time the player base AND SE staff, from producer to GM's looks at their game and realizes the system in place is toxic. There is a reasonable person clause in the ToS for a VERY good reason, it is about time the GM's learn what it is and remain objective rather than outright punishing people.

That's never going to happen, as much as I agree. There's just too many sensetive players in this community that lose their wits when faced with criticism. Tell someone to improve on their job? You don't pay my sub. Give someone advice on mechanics? They know better. Do Savage content? You're a toxic elitist for merely existing. The ToS are purposefully vague to avoid further questioning on the subject. If you're unsure about violations chances are you'll be silent in-game. That's a feasible strategy to drown confrontations and deal with them swiftly. At what cost? It creates more segregation and anxiety. Basically the ToS is in stark contrast to the overall theme of the game and doesn't encourage any social interaction between people if you ask me.

[Shin96]

The ToS states that your account can be terminated for any reason or no reason whatsoever, you agreed to these terms by accepting to play the game.

It's very unlikely you've been "banned" for no reason. Understand that using inappropriate language, even aimed at no one in particular, is considered a violation of the terms you've agreed to. My advice is don't engage with people in this game at all and keep social interactions to a bare minimum, for starters. It's only ever safe when you personally know the people you speak to. Let's hope the GM will reveal the violation to you.

[Penthea]

Sigh, players should be instantly told why they're sent to jail even if it's vague reasoning. It wouldn't be difficult for SE to put it in a dialogue box that appears when they enter the area so that players have -some idea- as to why they're there. Many players have ended up there having no clue what the place even is, and then have to wait for ages for a GM to explain what happened.

And as others said be mindful when you speak with people you don't know. For example you can end up in jail for dropping a F bomb even if you didn't say it with the intent to hurt or anger anyone. SE only care that you dropped the F bomb, not why.

[Shin96]

And as others said be mindful when you speak with people you don't know. For example you can end up in jail for dropping a F bomb even if you didn't say it with the intent to hurt or anger anyone. SE only care that you dropped the F bomb, not why.

I'm not sure if what I learned was correct some time ago, but the ToS is based on the Japanese law system. They don't care under what circumstances what happened, you have to bear the responsiblity for it. I might be entirely wrong though.

[Lanadra]

I'm not sure if what I learned was correct some time ago, but the ToS is based on the Japanese law system. They don't care under what circumstances what happened, you have to bear the responsiblity for it. I might be entirely wrong though.

Thaaat is pretty much how things work in Japan, unlike here in the west where we'll always try to argue the circumstances of some offense. In Japan it is generally expected that regardless of the circumstances, you take responsibility for something you did.

[Theodric]

I'm not sure if what I learned was correct some time ago, but the ToS is based on the Japanese law system. They don't care under what circumstances what happened, you have to bear the responsiblity for it. I might be entirely wrong though.

Which in itself is strange when one considers the sort of themes that the game seeks to explore and the way in which the development team pretend to be all for bringing people from all over the world together.

At the end of the day, I think that the current terms of service are simply not fit for purpose. They are very easily exploited by players with a grudge who can and do absolutely get innocent people banned due to claiming to be offended by specific comments.

I know people who have jokingly said 'don't be silly' on this very forum and been hit with a ban because a moderator decided to treat it like a deeply personal attack.

I hold the firm believe that the terms of service should be tweaked to account for different game regions and a 'forgiveness' system should be in place to ensure that all but the most horrific of acts are removed after a set period of good behaviour.

A lot of people like and enjoy the game but do not want to interact with the community due to the troubling number of individuals and groups who seek to weaponise the terms of service in their existing form.

[Shin96]

Which in itself is strange when one considers the sort of themes that the game seeks to explore and the way in which the development team pretend to be all for bringing people from all over the world together.

At the end of the day, I think that the current terms of service are simply not fit for purpose. They are very easily exploited by players with a grudge who can and do absolutely get innocent people banned due to claiming to be offended by specific comments.

I know people who have jokingly said 'don't be silly' on this very forum and been hit with a ban because a moderator decided to treat it like a deeply personal attack.

I hold the firm believe that the terms of service should be tweaked to account for different game regions and a 'forgiveness' system should be in place to ensure that all but the most horrific of acts are removed after a set period of good behaviour.

A lot of people like and enjoy the game but do not want to interact with the community due to the troubling number of individuals and groups who seek to weaponise the terms of service in their existing form.

I agree. They need to look into every law in other countries to adjust the ToS based on that regional difference. It's a crying shame some people are afraid to interact with others out of fear of getting reported or banned. I've had my fair share of individuals trying to set me up and report me but luckily I'm smart enough to understand what they were trying to pull off.

[Nothv13]

Sigh, players should be instantly told why they're sent to jail even if it's vague reasoning. It wouldn't be difficult for SE to put it in a dialogue box that appears when they enter the area so that players have -some idea- as to why they're there. Many players have ended up there having no clue what the place even is, and then have to wait for ages for a GM to explain what happened.

And as others said be mindful when you speak with people you don't know. For example you can end up in jail for dropping a F bomb even if you didn't say it with the intent to hurt or anger anyone. SE only care that you dropped the F bomb, not why.

What I find interesting is they seem so quick to respond to bad language and RP stuff, but people have been harassed for months and RMT traders up in the pF for months and they do nothing.

[Penthea]

What I find interesting is they seem so quick to respond to bad language and RP stuff, but people have been harassed for months and RMT traders up in the pF for months and they do nothing.

I don't even know what to say about that other than "wat". I know that it is pretty standard to have different teams tackle more serious issues like RMT but this isn't an excuse for leaving those players do that for literally months.