Gunbreaker lvl 70 Cutscene (Spoilers)

[YuyuZ]

So during the lvl 70 GNB cutscene, the WOL gets lured into a magitek trap and is almost executed by a magitek gunblade, but in the end our gnb mentor saves us. I know our character has plot armor but I feel like this is a complete slap to the face for all the other antagonists considering they all their effort and power they use against us.

If our mentor didn't show up, would our character have died that easily? Hydaelyn and Midgardsormr have saved us before from powerful enemies, but there was no indication of their presense in that cutscene. If its this easy to kill our character why should I take any schemes or powerful future antagonists seriously? There efforts would all be a waste of time and energy when this one Garlean proved its very simple to trap us and kill us. How can we break free from powerful ascian restraints yet we can't with magitek technology?

[KizuyaKatogami]

Welcome to Final Fantasy 14. Where the plot armor and plot holes are as thick as roegadyn’s and everyone overlooks it.

[Kesey]

So during the lvl 70 GNB cutscene, the WOL gets lured into a magitek trap and is almost executed by a magitek gunblade, but in the end our gnb mentor saves us. I know our character has plot armor but I feel like this is a complete slap to the face for all the other antagonists considering they all their effort and power they use against us.

If our mentor didn't show up, would our character have died that easily? Hydaelyn and Midgardsormr have saved us before from powerful enemies, but there was no indication of their presense in that cutscene. If its this easy to kill our character why should I take any schemes or powerful future antagonists seriously? There efforts would all be a waste of time and energy when this one Garlean proved its very simple to trap us and kill us. How can we break free from powerful ascian restraints yet we can't with magitek technology?

So the plot armor excuse aside, if you were up to date on all your quests you'd know that Hydaelyn doesn't have the power to save you from random magitek and that Midgardsormr is taking the big sleep after helping with Omega so he's out of the picture too.

And I understand the fantasy of being powerful and how it ruins suspension of disbelief, but isn't it nice to know that you have allies who would watch your back and try to save you?

[MoofiaBossVal]

Hydaelyn and Midgardsormr have saved us before from powerful enemies, but there was no indication of their presense in that cutscene.

Hydaelyn expended pretty much all of her power saving you from a nuke going off at the end of 2.0. And she spent what little power she regenerated trying to save the First from being totally wiped out (after 90% of that planet was wiped out). There is nothing she can do.

Midgardsomr expended almost all of his power when he was blown up during the Battle of Silvertear Skies, and used what little power he had regenerated saving you from Omega. Midgardsomr is asleep and regenerating and won't wake up for several hundred years.

Also, the WoL isn't Goku. The WoL has never killed a powerful being without supernatural assistance and/or their foe being hamstrung. To defeat the Ultima Weapon, Hydaelyn had to strip it of the Primals it contained. The defeat Nidhogg, you needed Hraesvelgr's eye. To defeat Hades, you needed a huge infusion of Light. The WoL never won a straight 1v1 duel against Zenos; only with additional friends was the WoL able to defeat Zenos. The WoL is just one person. Perhaps really skilled, but not anymore powerful than anyone else, and needs to rely on others to win.

Also, remember that time the WoL drank poisoned wine? The WoL would have died if it was legit poison and not just a knock out drug. The WoL isn't superhuman or all knowing.

[Vyrerus]

So during the lvl 70 GNB cutscene, the WOL gets lured into a magitek trap and is almost executed by a magitek gunblade, but in the end our gnb mentor saves us. I know our character has plot armor but I feel like this is a complete slap to the face for all the other antagonists considering they all their effort and power they use against us.

If our mentor didn't show up, would our character have died that easily? Hydaelyn and Midgardsormr have saved us before from powerful enemies, but there was no indication of their presense in that cutscene. If its this easy to kill our character why should I take any schemes or powerful future antagonists seriously? There efforts would all be a waste of time and energy when this one Garlean proved its very simple to trap us and kill us. How can we break free from powerful ascian restraints yet we can't with magitek technology?

The WoL is susceptible to traps and K.O.s in the course of normal gameplay. Those traps the Garlean had are no different. Keep in mind the cutscene never showed him actually hurt us, the trap was broken first.

Hydaelyn doesn't have the power to intervene in all of our affairs. Midgardsormr doesn't either.

We're still mortal and we still bleed. We've got the best plot armor of all though, in that if they did actually kill our character, and let it stick, they'd lose customers.

Whenever they show villains get the upper hand over the WoL, it's really just supposed to be telling us as players that said villain is highly competent and should be taken seriously.

[Frizze]

I saw whats-his-name coming, so i stayed in the trap there on purpose and let him set me free to draw the enemies in. If he hadnt been there, id have done that Active Time Maneuver move where i break out of the thing holding me and id have fought the bad guys anyway.

[EdwinLi]

Hydaelyn expended pretty much all of her power saving you from a nuke going off at the end of 2.0. And she spent what little power she regenerated trying to save the First from being totally wiped out (after 90% of that planet was wiped out). There is nothing she can do.

Midgardsomr expended almost all of his power when he was blown up during the Battle of Silvertear Skies, and used what little power he had regenerated saving you from Omega. Midgardsomr is asleep and regenerating and won't wake up for several hundred years.

Also, the WoL isn't Goku. The WoL has never killed a powerful being without supernatural assistance and/or their foe being hamstrung. To defeat the Ultima Weapon, Hydaelyn had to strip it of the Primals it contained. The defeat Nidhogg, you needed Hraesvelgr's eye. To defeat Hades, you needed a huge infusion of Light. The WoL never won a straight 1v1 duel against Zenos; only with additional friends was the WoL able to defeat Zenos. The WoL is just one person. Perhaps really skilled, but not anymore powerful than anyone else, and needs to rely on others to win.

Also, remember that time the WoL drank poisoned wine? The WoL would have died if it was legit poison and not just a knock out drug. The WoL isn't superhuman or all knowing.

Ya, a lot of people forget WoL is only strong against all these godly beings because he/she is getting support from some kind of godly powers and help from others summoned by such godly powers.

They made this aspect more clear in Shadowbringer now with how other Warriors of Light from other worlds are being summoned to aid the WoL with fighting against these godly beings but were not so apparent in past stories.

These special buffs and magically summoned allies are not constantly being used due to only specifically used against godly beings or atleast beings of high power since the beings giving WoL these benefits have limited amount of energy to use them.

Outside of these moment the WoL is very mortal but just have more skill in combat than most people. A weakness a lot of Main Story antagonist never seem to exploit but mostly because they may believe WoL's blessings to be constantly active when they are not. This is shown alot by NPC's dialogues about WoL in the Main Story quests with how they always treat WoL as if he/she is a unstoppable force with powers that can slay anyone with ease.

[RyuDragnier]

I always hated this cutscene. Not because of us getting trapped...but because "I was acting" with the level 68 quest. That felt like BS to me, especially considering how emotional the 68 quest was, you can't fake that kind of emotion.

[Vyrerus]

I always hated this cutscene. Not because of us getting trapped...but because "I was acting" with the level 68 quest. That felt like BS to me, especially considering how emotional the 68 quest was, you can't fake that kind of emotion.

Yeah, I didn't believe him either. I mean, I wouldn't mind believing Radovan is an insanely good actor... but in the earlier quests he seems a little clumsy and forgetful at times, so I'm more into thinking he came up with the, "It was just an act." as an afterwards way to rein in his emotions.

[RyuDragnier]

Yeah, I didn't believe him either. I mean, I wouldn't mind believing Radovan is an insanely good actor... but in the earlier quests he seems a little clumsy and forgetful at times, so I'm more into thinking he came up with the, "It was just an act." as an afterwards way to rein in his emotions.

I wouldn't have minded it if instead of "I was acting", he stated "I remembered who I am." Would have come across much better.