Can Pugilists/Monks Tank

[ZenAero]

I tanked Ifrit as pugilist with 456 evasion and I was tanking just fine, but I have to be honest and admit that I did not evade as many attacks as I thought I should maybe 4-5 not including my featherfoot evasions. Monk can most definitely be an evasion tank with the introduction of better evasion gear. I added over 100 evasion to my character and it did not seem to make as much difference as it should. Maybe its broken or there is a cap?

[SafeOnBlock]

Also monks have one of the highest evade in third place tied with samurai @ 20%, 2nd place is thief @ 25%, and 1st is not supprisingly Ninja at 30%

[SafeOnBlock]

Lol i keep saying monk when i want to say pugilist. I dont know what abilities monk has but when I think monk i think the original final fantasy tactics with High Hp and Chakra those dudes lived forever and did crazy damage. I would argue that is what monks should have been in the first place.

As far as evasion and how it works. I think a good idea, taken from WoW and no I am not a WoW head, is when in the character gear screen you can see what the gear does to your stats and what the specfic attributes do for your character such as:
X str = y att power

or X evasion = Y % to dodge an attack or magic attack.

For those who never played Final Fantasy Tactics here ya go this is Monk and its abilities.
Also if you never played it buy it because it is one of the most epic stories you will ever see in a game.

http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/fft/jobs.php?job=Monk

[khaled]

Can taunt but can't hold the hate.

[Perrin]

Personally I'm dissapointed we can't emergency tank as well as Thief in XI. I don't want this to be XI-2 but without a THF class this was the closest in playstyle for me. Unless pre-planned, with my playstyle at least theres no prolonged emergency tanking. From the start I can tank with a good healer, but not for long. .. That's not the point of an emergency tank. I should be able to take hate mid fight and survive long enough for a good healer/tank to revive re-take hate a single time during a major fight. I know I'm not elite in my gear or playstyle, but I'd love the option.

[Arcell]

Monk absolutely can't tank. They don't have the enmity generating abilities to do so, not to mention the lack of health. At most you can get a monster's attention if things turn sour but not for long.

Pugilists, maybe. You'd have to cross-class a lot of stuff and even then you wouldn't come close to Warrior or even Paladin.

SE has enough trouble balancing Paladin and Warrior, let's not throw Pugilist back into the mix. They turned PGL/MNK away from tanking for a reason. PGL used to be able to tank but they took all of those abilities away and left us with Taunt which amounts to a few seconds of max hate.

[Soukyuu]

SE has enough trouble balancing Paladin and Warrior, let's not throw Pugilist back into the mix. They turned PGL/MNK away from tanking for a reason. PGL used to be able to tank but they took all of those abilities away and left us with Taunt which amounts to a few seconds of max hate.

While I agree, it's kinda a pity. I mean, if PGL was a tank, then our range wouldn't be a disadvantage for once..

[charlemagne]

Last night we used PGL to tank coincutter,mistress and chimera. Our main tank has long wanted to experiment with PGL and so we gave him his chance. Wearing the Gryphonskin set with +20 def on the body and a single +21 eva meld we found with FoE and food his def was comparable to his very well geared WAR but with significantly higher eva. We found hate took longer to establish but once established the dd could actually push harder without slipping into the red. The tank found it a lot of fun and the extra single target dps while obviously not as much as a full on dd mnk did help the fights go a little quicker. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone but if you have an experienced tank who can adjust his tanking style slightly then in certainly in some situations it appears that PGL can be a superior tank to both WAR and PLD. For the record we have over 400 wins in these dungeons with this tank. If he thinks pgl is better at it than his beloved WAR or PLD then I'm inclined to believe him.

[pompey_dan]

Believe it or not thm with hp materia is a really good tank for certain things, I used to tank ifrit after the ability changes when thm was best for the fight, the other thm's in the group would never have to hold back because could hold hate with high damage and flash,voke,rampart meaning we could kill it in less than 5 minutes, 7thm 1conj (class stacking extreme haha) just rotate sentinel and sanguine rite(basically a 2nd sentinel fir thm) then necrogenesis thundara, self SS and second wind.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...gxQSKVFw&gl=GB

We've also used PUG tank but its not as ideal

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop...QKx08nsU&gl=GB

For some of the newer boss's, mistress/ princess - could be tanked with anything, coincounter - tanks needs 3k+ hp for Glower, chimera - high hp is ideal incase getting hit, garuda - warrior is preferred for high hp and aoe damage/hate during sister phases.

[MartaDemireux]

PGL can quite well but it takes a ton more effort than MRD/WAR/GLA/PLD.

MNK can only redirect the mob onto itself should a mage steal agro