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    Just switch to active mode during battle ^^
    What DoM need is a WS again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Just switch to active mode during battle ^^
    This. Seriously it takes like half a second to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Just switch to active mode during battle ^^
    What DoM need is a WS again
    1 they dont have WS
    2 in active mode you dont regain mp
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    1 they dont have WS
    2 in active mode you dont regain mp
    1. They had own WS once. Because of that I wrote "again"
    2. In passive mode you can't see your weapon animation

    Just switch to active mode -> cast a spell -> switch back to passive mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    Just switch to active mode during battle ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyph View Post
    This. Seriously it takes like half a second to do.
    Having your weapon out makes you look like a frickin' noob. It draws criticism from your teammates because your job is pretty much to be in passive mode. That's just a dumb workaround, not a solution.
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    Which is why Whm/Cjn shouldn't have Aero/Stone spells.
    Then conj / WHM would be highly inviable in PvP when that comes out. Think back to WoW's preists. Even though they were the most effective healers, they still had an array of reasonably powered offensive actions, that, even if you didn't use them in PvE parties, were used in PvP.

    Even in early FF games, WHMs were at a minimum very powerful against undead/demons. in XI, they weren't powerful against anything. White magic is mostly aligned with good, it's not necessarily all about healing, it's also about smiting unholy beings. I'm tired of people saying that WHM and CNJ (especially CNJ itself) shouldn't have offensive magic.

    [edit: sorry bout double post]
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    I know that they use to have WS but they dont now. so they dont have them like i said. But to this post yes Whm is the Undead smiting master so it should have banish to do that ill never understand why they didnt give them this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    1 they dont have WS
    2 in active mode you dont regain mp
    1)they used to (There was really no good reason to remove them, all weapons used by mages in XI still had weapon skills and there were at least rare cases when they could come in handy)
    2) we're asking that we be able to (and you do regain MP, but from refresh effects only), not saying that it's the way things are at the moment.

    because your job is pretty much to be in passive mode.
    It wasn't always this way, and there's no reason it has to stay that way.

    Frankly, I think refresh effects should be made way better and have the regular MP recovery only apply when entirely not in combat. (eg not have hate on anything).
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 04-24-2012 at 01:41 PM.