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    The biggest issue with the golden mounts as gil sink is just that they're not going to do their job. People who can already afford them will just buy them day one and then go back to complaining that there's nothing else to buy. Or, as evidenced in this thread, they'll complain that the thing to buy isn't the thing they want to buy. Also, for those who already have the money to blow on a golden mount "gil sink" chances are they have the ways and means locked in to just make more money so even if the mounts do take a chunk out of their bank account they'll just make it back and, again, complain they have too much gil.

    It's also worth considering just what "expensive" even means. YoshiP can go around saying they are really expensive but keep in mind he also says that the "new dungeons are challenging" every time new dungeons come out. Either way, we have players in game who literally have a billion gil banked. There is just no way that the "expensive" gil sink mounts are going to actually be priced in a way that will impact players like that. "Expensive" is relative.

    As for some of the other suggestions in this thread, I think players need to keep in mind that more functional gil sinks can be a problem in that they can end up punishing the players who aren't rich. And if the gil sink is too appealing/useful/functional it can actually end up encouraging RMT and gil selling.
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    I'd like a fountain that spews gil. It'd look wonderful in my garden, I think.
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    I'm okay with the idea, and these reskinned beast tribe mounts are alright for starters. They really should add reskins of PvP mounts though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
    Think they are pressed for resources on developing assets like glam items ever since they pushed Viera and Hrothgar. The fact the judge armor doesn't include a split cape for races with tails is a pretty obvious component of this, as they are relying on just getting a single model out and having it sort of mold to fit most of the races.
    Definitely pressed for resources. BLU only got a single carnival fight and no mount for the raid achievement, DNC/GNB got no Primal weapons in the last 4 sets and they're scrapping the Allied Beast Tribe questline for this expansion. This is after scrapping Hildebrand, a dungeon per patch, Deep dungeons, Ultimate, several seasonal events, condensing individual class quests and so on. Temporarily cutting some content to allocate resources to enjoyable priority content is understandable, but they've been trimming more and more and more lately...

    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    Also, for those who already have the money to blow on a golden mount "gil sink" chances are they have the ways and means locked in to just make more money so even if the mounts do take a chunk out of their bank account they'll just make it back and, again, complain they have too much gil.
    Actually not really. Gil is much harder to make in massive sums nowadays. Back in early Stormblood there were plenty of times you could sell basic white DoH/L lv70 gear at 1-300k and endgame gear over 1 million apiece. Some players amassed anything up to the multi-billion mark and even some casual players pulled together 100 million+. A lot of those players are still sitting on that old gil, but if they were to spend it all at once, would probably never see it again. I'm definitely in that boat myself.
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    Last edited by Liam_Harper; 04-04-2021 at 09:28 AM.

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    I'd like to see gil sinks in the form of ex/savage augmented glams that are maximum 2 expansions old ( so I guess right Alexander stuff) and the value should reflect the tier number the raid. Example, A1s should be like, 100k and A12s like, 1mil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    There are enough gil sinks for someone who only plays battle classes, otherwise I would be rich after all these years. I'm currently at 1.6 million.

    These gil sinks are more specifically for people who play crafters and gatherers too.
    You should have way more than that. Just doing roulettes as adv in need would net you roughly 100k a day. I don't craft or gather to make money and I'm over 100 mil...
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    Take the Construct 8 mount, reskin to be a giant golden Godbert statue that trails gil as it walks and I'm sold. Or how bout a golden fat chocobo with a money bag on the bait stick? Golden beast tribe mounts, though? Ehh. I'll buy them, but they won't be mainstays of my mount rotation. I'm just hoping they're not like 500mil a piece or something ridiculous like that. My days of making 100mil+ gil per month are long gone.
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    I have a decent amount of gil so I’ll probably get the mounts for collecting but I’m way more interested in glam and emotes. At the moment I don’t really enjoy getting fashion accessories as rewards all that much, as the way they are implemented means you have to just stand there, straight faced.

    For glam/cosmetics I would perhaps have more “high end” boutique items: tailored suits and gowns with nice detailing and all the trimmings such as shoes and gloves and headwear. Perhaps even accessories as well, since variety for them is pretty lacking. They could also have nicer hair options here as well- fancier updos and the like. I’d say male characters are pretty overdue for having a nice fitted suit added to the game. I know a few of my friends have mentioned really wanting one - the best man’s is too boxy, the wedding one has the big flower and is also boxy, and the butler one is nice but it costs real money and is also less modern than what I have in mind. A gil sink could be a nice way to introduce something posh like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Espritduo View Post
    Take the Construct 8 mount, reskin to be a giant golden Godbert statue that trails gil as it walks and I'm sold. Or how bout a golden fat chocobo with a money bag on the bait stick? Golden beast tribe mounts, though? Ehh. I'll buy them, but they won't be mainstays of my mount rotation. I'm just hoping they're not like 500mil a piece or something ridiculous like that. My days of making 100mil+ gil per month are long gone.
    Nvm what I said about not being as interested in mounts. I need that fat chocobo immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You should have way more than that. Just doing roulettes as adv in need would net you roughly 100k a day. I don't craft or gather to make money and I'm over 100 mil...
    I often spend it on crafted gear for my battle classes, HQ food, HQ potions, chocobo food for leveling, orchestrions, fashion report, it all easily falls away.

    Sometimes I've spent it on mounts and minions, but this was really when I got gil from a one-off selling of materia from hunting.

    It takes a while to build up a million from roulettes, particularly if you skip lengthy ones like Main Scenario and Alliance Raids. I level every class every expansion through roulettes, and got all of the tank mounts through roulettes too and cap tomestones through expert roulettes, and only recently stopped having a reason to do roulettes.
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