Another interview question about Ultimate

[technole]

It makes sense, you just can't have anyone QA an ultimate. You need real raiders, whom are battle designers, who can do above savage level content, blind, and then in this pandemic do it remotely like a real raid group does. It just adds up to more time spent to do this kind of stuff remotely versus in the same office.

[Maltothoris]

If only Ultimates were important enough to dedicate a team to them.
Imagine a world where designing a few fights every expac was your main job and you just did assets or whatever on the side in your "free time."
Not a terribly realistic gripe IMO.

Here something that even Yoshi P said in the interview, "Regarding working on future Ultimate trials, we came to the conclusion that we needed to work in a more planned and efficient way."

He admits that that the current way of doing it this way is not that great for productivity and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true across the whole development team itself since a good majority of the team itself isn't devoted to battle content.

[ItMe]

Here something that even Yoshi P said in the interview, "Regarding working on future Ultimate trials, we came to the conclusion that we needed to work in a more planned and efficient way."

He admits that that the current way of doing it this way is not that great for productivity and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true across the whole development team itself since a good majority of the team itself isn't devoted to battle content.

Right.
Their process can def be improved.
But expecting them to have a team dedicated to Ultimates is a pipe dream. Nothing wrong with dreaming, but it's not appropriate to "fault them" for this.

[Vahlnir]

Here something that even Yoshi P said in the interview, "Regarding working on future Ultimate trials, we came to the conclusion that we needed to work in a more planned and efficient way."

He admits that that the current way of doing it this way is not that great for productivity and I wouldn't be surprised if this was true across the whole development team itself since a good majority of the team itself isn't devoted to battle content.

It would make sense. On more than one occasion they have implemented something that was clearly not thought all the way through. It'd be great to see them improve the development process as a whole.

[Theodric]

My issue is that it isn't just Ultimate content that is being cut and the scaling back of content has been happening since before Covid-19 entered the picture.

[Vahlnir]

My issue is that it isn't just Ultimate content that is being cut and the scaling back of content has been happening since before Covid-19 entered the picture.

Pretty much. They've been cutting corners for awhile, it was just more evident in Shadowbringers, at least to me. If they plan to keep the game going for as long as they say they want to, something's gotta give.

[Theodric]

Pretty much. They've been cutting corners for awhile, it was just more evident in Shadowbringers, at least to me. If they plan to keep the game going for as long as they say they want to, something's gotta give.

Yup. It doesn't help that you have to go digging for information if you want to keep up to date, either. A recent interview, for example, revealed that we won't be getting a Beast Tribe finale quest in 5.5 despite it being a tradition in past expansions. It might seem like a minor thing to many people, though it's just another bit of content thrown to one side.

I'm hoping and expecting that 5.5 and 6.0 will be good. I just...really want more stuff outside of the MSQ's.

[ItMe]

A recent interview, for example, revealed that we won't be getting a Beast Tribe finale quest in 5.5 despite it being a tradition in past expansions. It might seem like a minor thing to many people, though it's just another bit of content thrown to one side.

Wait, really?
I thought they just reaffirmed we weren't getting another beast tribe in Shadow Bringers.
Can you throw me a link to the interview you were reading?
We must be looking at different translations... or something?

[Theodric]

Wait, really?
I thought they just reaffirmed we weren't getting another beast tribe in Shadow Bringers.
Can you throw me a link to the interview you were reading?
We must be looking at different translations... or something?

No Allied Beast Tribe Quests this time around.

Source:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ion_by_ikn111/

[Kyuuen]

Yup. It doesn't help that you have to go digging for information if you want to keep up to date, either. A recent interview, for example, revealed that we won't be getting a Beast Tribe finale quest in 5.5 despite it being a tradition in past expansions. It might seem like a minor thing to many people, though it's just another bit of content thrown to one side.

I'm hoping and expecting that 5.5 and 6.0 will be good. I just...really want more stuff outside of the MSQ's.

To be fair on that front, most tribes added in ending patches have typically been designed to be catch up mechanics for quick leveling crafters and gatherers; or were moogles added earlier... I don't remember, but in Shadowbringers that mechanic was baked into Ishgard restoration. Whether that is for better or worse is another topic. Not that I'm defending the choice to not add a new tribe either.