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    Tyssyn's Avatar
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    Tyss Kaatapoh
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90

    Combat Materia curiousity

    Does anyone use any other materia other than Savage Aim, Savage Might and Heavens' Eye?

    I have a habit of just tossing any materia I get onto a retainer, and wondering if I should keep some of these? As a DNC main, the only ones I ever use are the three 'reds' I mentioned, those are the ones suggested when I go looking for what is best for a DNC to use. While I have all classes at 80 at the moment, the only gear I ever tend to meld is my aiming sets.

    QuickArm, QuickTongue, BattleDance and Piety, does any class use them? Are they worth storing in case I decide to meld another class?
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Sometimes I'll use quick arm if I want/need to hit a certain skillspeed, but it's so rare you're better off selling them. Don't stockpile, just buy as you need.
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    People occasionally use skill/spell speed if they're trying to hit a specific break point but for the most part it's crit/det/DH all the way, even for tanks and healers.
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    Tyssyn's Avatar
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    Brynhildr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Thanks for the answers, looksl ike I'll clean up that retainer's inventory a bit.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Spellspeed is used in some BLM builds.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Exodus
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It really depends on the job and what level of gameplay you are doing/planning to do.
    -Most jobs prioritize Crit > DHit > Det. This is generally what you can stick to if you aren't doing any higher-end content/trying to min-max/go for world first/etc.
    -Skill/Spell Speed is usually for reaching certain thresholds to min-max your rotation. There are a few jobs with secondary Speed builds (like SAM and I think GNB). Like everyone else said, BLMs do love Spell Speed, seeing as they are the most cast-heavy DPS.
    -Vitality (and Piety for Healers) can be helpful when you're first learning/trying to clear endgame content for the first time but get flushed out as you learn the fights and get better gear.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 04-02-2021 at 12:18 AM.

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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    -Vitality (and Piety for Healers) can be helpful when you're first learning/trying to clear endgame content for the first time but get flushed out as you learn the fights and get better gear.
    You cannot meld vitality anymore. Nor any main stat.
    I miss those days though.
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    You cannot meld vitality anymore. Nor any main stat.
    I miss those days though.
    Oh yeah >w>()
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    Mimiji Miji
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    Dancer Lv 100
    A few things I forgot to add to my post:
    -Direct Hit (and even Determination) can give you more DPS then Critical Hit (in a vacuum). However once Critical Hit reaches a certain threshold (I keep hearing 3400-ish), it gives you more return then Direct Hit (it needs less to beat Determination). You don't really have to worry about his unless you're min-maxing as all three stats are still DPS increases. Here is a graph that shows you the DPS% increase of the three stats.
    -Crit > Det > DHit is okay if you are a healer and want/need stronger heals. If that's not an issue, stick with Crit > DHit > Det (enemies can cause damage if they're dead >w>).
    -Weapon Attack is king.
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    Last edited by Mimilu; 04-02-2021 at 12:01 AM.