Mentor system needs an overhaul

[Lanadra]

Well I'm glad to hear it's not awful everywhere. I haven't seen the Moogle one in over a year now, but when I did...it was not nice at all. I ended up just sending tells to people who asked questions because answering them in NN often resulted in needless sass. Maybe it's better now. Maybe.

From my experience it's 98% french since I unlocked NN about a month or so ago. Which is fine, but I certainly can't read any of it or offer insight.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The only change that needs to happen with the mentor system is its removal.

The best thing to do when you see a mentor crown is generally the opposite of what they do or say.


Very few actually know what they are talking about. Very very few.

[Ralph2449]

Very few actually know what they are talking about. Very very few.

Not surprising sadly, most gamers who like to tell themselves they are good are often clueless and dont understand anything in any level of depth but since they follow what they were told is "the best" way to do things/rotation/strat they often delude themselves they know what they are talking about.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Not this kind of thread again...
... No, I'm not trying to dismiss your sentiment, but it would be nice if the older thread with same topic can be bumped up because larger thread tend to get more 'actual attention' rather than having multiple but fragmented threads like this.

[Derio]

Just because they are a mentor doesnt mean they know everything about the game. It means they have a general grasp or higher of the game mechanics and features. Far too many people assume that mentors know everything.

The mentor system is simply a system in place that allows people to help new players with questions, content, etc through mentor roulette or novice network.

Also there are crafter mentors as well. Two different crowns but many people and new players see it as the same thing. The Mentor system works well in well driven communities because it is a community driven tool. If your world has a poor community then the system probably works poorly.

They should leave the mentor system as is. While you may have had a negative experience from it. On Famfrit I have seen many sprouts get the help they need in both random instances and novice network.

[Starshower]

Look, I was agreeing with everything you were saying. (most) Mentors are indeed random players that use the crown for looks.

But when you listed your proposed overhaul I couldn't help but laugh-- this is a bit extreme isn't it? I mean, how relics and fates will help anyone know more about the game?

[Rehayem]

Look, I was agreeing with everything you were saying. (most) Mentors are indeed random players that use the crown for looks.

But when you listed your proposed overhaul I couldn't help but laugh-- this is a bit extreme isn't it? I mean, how relics and fates will help anyone know more about the game?

Playing through low content forces players to remember and understand specific mechanics that can benefit sprouts. Yes, they are extreme, but being a Mentor should be earned with effort, rather than some commendations and role quests. Overall the current system is absurd.

[KDSilver]

While mentors should definitly have strong knowledge about the game, don't expect them to be wiki-ffxiv either. They're human, not living encyclopedia.

As for the relic requirement you mention, I don't know what's challenging about it.
It takes time. Especially ARR one. Nothing particulary hard to do.
Or maybe being patient nowaday became challenging I imagine.

[Jeeqbit]

As for the relic requirement you mention, I don't know what's challenging about it.

Being challenging is not the point. Sometimes people work on relic weapons and have questions about them in the novice network. A mentor probably can't answer them if they've never done one.

I don't think the majority of sprouts will work on them, but occasionally they delay the MSQ to do them. Returners could be at any stage of the game as well and frequently they are doing the ShB relic.

[technole]

Trade mentor is rather fake, the requirements are so low that you can sleepwalk your way to collectables. The majority are not even giving any trade advice, anywhere, and because the content where it even mattered has past us for months. Usually you don't take much stock in anyone with a hammer crown.


Now commendations are important to the system, that's why it was raised heavily. You don't want people who just don't get along with others, or stink at the game in-general. You know why people comm others even if they don't say anything. Like they do good DPS, or know their job and content to a high-level. That's important, you want people whom others approve of.

I don't speak in-content over 90% of the time, yet I've broken over 5000 in commendations over the years. From all types of content.