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  1. #61
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    Drkdays's Avatar
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I created a forum about this same issue and had a bunch of players spaz out on me. Look it up for expected comments. Good luck me amigo!
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  2. #62
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    CupOfIcedCoffee's Avatar
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    Limlom
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    Kris Barquer
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Honestly for me the only iconic thing about DRK for me is the big sword and having some sort of dark magic-ish thing going on along with it. Nothing else comes to mind, and I've been playing DRK for the better part of a week now. Just feels lacking. Especially after trying it out after PLD and GNB, PLD being in my mind the class more focused on keeping the party alive with skills like Cover, Interdiction, and Benediction, while GNB is more focused around the DPS burst which feels satisfying to pull off. (For me anyways, haven't gotten tired of it just yet.) And now coming over to DRK, while the oGCD attacks are cool and all, and the moves look somewhat nice... There's just not as much enjoyment in playing the class as there is when I go back to the other tanks. Maybe that might change when I get it into some later game content since I'm only level 56 with DRK, but my PLD running the same level content just feels so much more defined than a tank in the content it released alongside.

    Just my opinion so far on DRK though, and in no way contributing the mess of an argument happening in here.
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  3. #63
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    Bravely_Default's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Fairy-queen Titania
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I hate current DRK, can't stand playing it anymore. would rather warrior with that playstyle since I actually have self sustain and better OGCDs.
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    "The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." -Thucydides

  4. #64
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    Danelo's Avatar
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    Character
    Vann Wood
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Yup, made the switch recently myself. If I’m going be a watered down warrior than I might as well play one the majority of the time.
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  5. #65
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    Laphicet's Avatar
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    Laphicet Melophicet
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Danelo View Post
    Yup, made the switch recently myself. If I’m going be a watered down warrior than I might as well play one the majority of the time.
    Am in the same boat as well, leveled WAR just so I could stop using DRK after I grew bored and frustrated with it.
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  6. #66
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    AC9Breaker's Avatar
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    Character
    Ezekyle Abaddon
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    I rotate the tank I play depending on which achievement I'm working to finish.
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    "Brotherhood asked for no friendship, only loyalty. They stood back to back as the galaxy burned - always brothers, never friends; traitors together unto the last."

    --an excerpt from a Night Lords Novel, "Void Stalkers" Chapter X: Revenge.

  7. #67
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    Brandedblade's Avatar
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    Character
    Gunther Frey
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FallenWings View Post
    "War Clone"
    THANK YOU! This is exactly what I was thinking! The only thing they have in common is that Delirium and Inner Release both allow you to spam a spender skill. Even within that framework there are differences, Delirium causes the spenders to generate MP, but Inner Release allows them to force Direct Crits on the spenders.
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  8. #68
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    Danelo's Avatar
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    Vann Wood
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 83
    Delirium and IR are major functions/mechanics of the respective jobs. Yes, it that respect it’s a clone. We all know SE could have done better here. It was a blind spot borne from the developing team members not playing the jobs or just not caring enough to make a greater distinction.
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  9. #69
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Character
    Mute Shellback
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    The only thing they have in common is that Delirium and Inner Release both allow you to spam a spender skill.
    nope. If you're gonna go down that route of "A is B, but only because of [conditional], then they're more alike/identical than you think.
    Here I'll go down the list

    Del is IR, except no D.Crit.
    Blood Wep is Infuriate, except over 5 (if youre lucky) GCDs instead of all at once.
    E/FoS is Storms Eye, except one's a GCD combo finisher and the other's an oGCD.
    Abyssal Drain is Equilibrium, except way worse.
    Living Dead is Holmgang, except LD is garbage. (i.e. both trigger a "when <1HP, don't die" thing. It's just LD is garbage because of the kill gimmick.)
    Shadow Wall is Vengeance, except no thorns bonus damage.
    hot take incoming: TBN is Thrill, except for once TBN upfront is better.
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  10. #70
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    AC9Breaker's Avatar
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    Ezekyle Abaddon
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    you know what tho' guys? Dark is alright.
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    "Brotherhood asked for no friendship, only loyalty. They stood back to back as the galaxy burned - always brothers, never friends; traitors together unto the last."

    --an excerpt from a Night Lords Novel, "Void Stalkers" Chapter X: Revenge.

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