New Summoner - 7.0

[VictoriaLuv]

Diamond Shiva -
Enkindle - Diamond Dust
Turns summoners elemental attacks ice,

Heavenly Strikes

some other attack

Amethyst Ramah Enkindle - Judgement Bolt -

Thunderbolt, Rolling Thunder

Aquamarine Leviathan Enkindle - Tsunami

2 water based abilities

each of these turn summoners attacks ice, fire lightening 6

Alexander - this one works like phoenix and bahamut

[aveyond-dreams]

Alexander being our 3rd demi would be fantastic. Perhaps in order to get to him earlier in our rotation they could add a skill to let us "Grand Summon" him instead of Bahamut or Pheonix every so often.

Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan are the most logical additions to our new gem summons (and no, I do not care about the *special!* lore surrounding Shiva's summoning in 14. She's been a summon in nearly every FF game since FFIII, just add her please.)

While the Warring Triad could be another option for gem summons, I do not think they should take priority over classic summons like the ones mentioned above. Sophia is nice but Zurvan and Sephirot aren't as memorable or iconic.

It would also be nice to link the aetherflow skills to either Carbuncle or a new smaller summon in order to get rid of the last remaining traces of the old version of the job. I believe Fester may have a new animation, but even so the name is out of place now that there is no dots to "fester." Some of FFXI's alternate summons besides their pantheon included beings like Cait Sith, Atomos, Fenrir, Diabolos, or the most recent one, Siren. Beyond these examples I'm sure there exists something else that could replace these abilities.

[AdagiumKairos]

You are relentless.

[Rolder50]

7.0 - Probably another rework once everyone gets bored of flashy but shallow "summons"

[ChazNatlo]

7.0 - Probably another rework once everyone gets bored of flashy but shallow "summons"

I doubt we'll get another heavy rework. We will probably get some degree of partial rework like SMN has gotten in... basically every other expansion, but they're not going to put that much effort into the Job two expansions in a row. I'd also wager that they designed it with some thought into what they planned to do going forwards when they made it so they wouldn't hit another... I forgot the word they used, but another critical juncture in Job design.

Also, I suspect, regardless of whether the job is good it'll be popular. The "Braindead" simplicity of it might make it popular within a certain crowd. (And I will be using it regardless, because Mirasa is a Summoner. Whether the Job is good or not, that's my vision of her and that's the Job she's going to be.)

[aveyond-dreams]

No amount of stomping your feet in is going to force SE to revert the changes to Summoner and bring back dots with super fun pet ghosting. Yeah, that wasn't braindead at all, it was a sign of *skill!*

Please.

Anyway the whole rest of the world is celebrating the rework so the most likely scenario is that Summoner will go on to be one of the most popular, played, and well-liked jobs of 6.0, just like how Dancer was in 5.0. The vast majority of people loved both Dancer and Machinist when they got their respective reworks and most would agree they are some of the more fun classes in game.

Old Summoner was a far cry from what a lot of people would consider "fun" compared to the entire rest of available jobs you can choose from that don't suffer from janky mechanics. This whole "stop the wedding!" vibe some of these posts have is really starting to get old. Move on, or wait till 7.0 for Necromancer to come out because goodness knows us real Summoners had to wait 8 years for our job to finally be added to the game.

[CKNovel]

No amount of stomping your feet in is going to force SE to revert the changes to Summoner and bring back dots with super fun pet ghosting. Yeah, that wasn't braindead at all, it was a sign of *skill!*

just like how Dancer was in 5.0. The vast majority of people loved both Dancer and Machinist when they got their respective reworks and most would agree they are some of the more fun classes in game.

Okay now you're just adding words that were never spoken by anyone.
No one asked to keep the pet ghosting.

Also there is many threads here and there, just 3 clicks away about how MCH is not really popular due to how boring it is and how the AQ is jank, the heat is jank and flamethrower is jank.
Also Dancer never had any rework.
Also Phoenix has been widely praised as the best kind of pet. They kept Phoenix and copy pasted its behavior onto Bahamut which is the best decision.
And that's the kind of pets the community keeps asking for.

You can't create arguments from your imagination and use them, that's not how this works.

[Jirah]

as much as i dislike all of ur topics, i can imagine SMN changing to how similar MCH changed in EW. In short Bugger All

everyone said it was just a base and theyll really get it going in 6.0.......which is exactly what new SMN mains are saying after reading their 5 or so skills and seeing its skill count being the lowest in the game. They wont advance it out of both fear of alienation and a lack of ambition. if anything smn will just get Tridisaster II or somehting reductive and nothing else. Im so confident this will be the case im willing to put money on it