Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
Yeah that is not a healthy mentality and it is the dominant one in WoW, such people who obsess over ‘things necessary to succeed’ end up becoming miserable, negative, hating the things they are ’’’’’forced’’’’’’ to do which turns them into even more toxic tryhards that can get mad at people not forcing themselves into things they don’t enjoy because ‘omg you haven’t done x so you are only 95.2% optimal!! Scrub!!’

It is a video game, you are meant to have fun in it, the grinds and many types of content some hate I enjoy which is why I like mmorpgs over most other games but then you have the hyper optimization people who only raid log and choose to whine about how they are forced to play the rest of the game.

Thankfully Ff14 devs don’t treat raiders as a protected class so I know they won’t gut all forms of content and rewards like the WoW devs did recently so their protected class doesn’t feel ‘forced’ to do anything other than raid log but that mentality only leads to ruin for the player and the community.

What I am saying is that this mentality is unhealthy, it makes people miserable(but since their ego depends on clearing elite content they can’t just quit and play something fun) and more importantly if the devs ever pander to it the game is gutted for all other players.
And there's a reason why WoW is significantly more successful and is objectively more of a better game than FFXIV. WoW care about the real content unlike ffxiv where they put savage content behind casual walls.