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  1. #1
    Player
    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoltresRider View Post
    The enemy you fight pulls you to him and gives you a 4x vuln stack debuff which is completely unavoidable. before he is down to 70%, I have a 12x stack and instantly die in one hit. Those debuff stacks are completely unavoidable as he pulls you to him to attack EVEN from clear across the room.

    The girl DOES NOT EVEN heal herself and my vercure even when used twice is super weak. She just badly tries to prioritize me. She dies = instant fail. She WILL NOT heal herself by ANY means and she is the MAIN target of the bad guy.

    I cannot even get him down below 68% because of all these IMPOSSIBLE to avoid things

    I failed 6 times in a row on very easy. That tells you that even on very easy, it is impossible.

    Please fix this solo duty
    No it is not, if you macroed ever skill you do.. then yes you will run into problems because it causes skill lag... I completed all caster quests here... I totally suck at playing any caster in this game, and I did it and got every single job to 80.

    If you don't gear up, you will suffer, if you don't pay attention you will suffer, and maybe you should look into what you can do different than anything else as in 99.99% of all players who went RDM to 60+ passed this.
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    StormyFae's Avatar
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    Serena Nisomusui
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Ill be honest i struggled with it compared to whm and drk 60 quest rdm was alot harder with about same gear i had on others.. I manged it after 2 times.. But i have to agree from the ones i did that one was a bit more annoying.

    My issue was a. She wasnt healing and always got in the aoe for soul snatch.. I didnt die she did then it was gg i was handling him fine all 3 times
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    Last edited by StormyFae; 03-28-2021 at 11:03 AM.

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    Starshower's Avatar
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    Ares Stardust
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    I've just done this quest last week and I didn't ever think it was supposed to be difficult... Maybe there were machanics you had to do that were in other fights in the game so it was second nature to me. Maybe it's because I wait to do the quests when I have the next tier of tome gear so my stats are good, but I don't think it should be that hard...
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Starshower View Post
    I've just done this quest last week and I didn't ever think it was supposed to be difficult... Maybe there were machanics you had to do that were in other fights in the game so it was second nature to me. Maybe it's because I wait to do the quests when I have the next tier of tome gear so my stats are good, but I don't think it should be that hard...
    There's a considerable difference in difficulty between doing the quest with an ilvl of 145 (what a player who just hit level 60 but hasn't obtained any level 60 gear likely has) and ilvl 270 (what you have with Augmented Shire). "Considerable" is probably an understatement, extreme might be more accurate. The upcoming stat squish in Endwalker will actually help in this situation since the gap in stats will decrease significantly.

    If you want to get an idea of what it's like, job quests are now part of NG+. Get a set of the lower ilvl gear and run through the quests, then try to forget everything you know about how the fight works when you do it.

    If RDM is the player's main job, their MSQ progress could be far behind their job level so they won't even have access to the Shire gear (have to complete 3.0 MSQ first). They will still have access to gear from the MB but may not be able to afford a full set of the crafted 255 gear depending on their local prices. The less gear they're able to afford, the more difficult that quest becomes.
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 99
    Augmented Shire armor is ilvl 270. Straight out-of-the-box gear at level 60 will be around ilvl 150/160. This is the gear level that should be minimal (ilevel 150 or so) necessary for the level 60 quests. If the devs required ilevel 270 to complete the quest, they would have put it into the requirements for the duty.

    The real trick for the quest is the casting of vercure to remove the debuff, not the fact that you overgear the quest by 120 ilevels ...

    Sure, you can use poetics, if you haven't been doing MSQ and instances only and ignored those things that give you poetics, and don't spend gil on the marketboard, in the race to end-game.
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    Iris Nakiri
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Augmented Shire armor is ilvl 270. Straight out-of-the-box gear at level 60 will be around ilvl 150/160. This is the gear level that should be minimal (ilevel 150 or so) necessary for the level 60 quests.

    Sure, you can use poetics, if you haven't been doing MSQ and instances only and ignored those things that give you poetics, and don't spend gil on the marketboard, in the race to end-game.
    I am guessing it was an old design they had at that time that got fixed for later expansions, it was only specifically 60 class quests that many were impossible with 50 gear, but for later expansions having full poetic gear from the previous expansion didnt really cause me any problems and was more than good enough till I could unlock the next expansion poetic gear vendor unlike 60 where I ended up having to wait for a while to get through the msq to get that lvl 60 vendor so I had to delay my samurai lvl 60 quest for quite a while since I had only just arrived at ishgard yet was 60something already.

    I kinda wish they would just unlock poetics vendors when you reach that level rather than the end of the msq
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.

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    Sorzai's Avatar
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    Atreus Yevon
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    It took me awhile to beat him, I realized I was really undergeared. After gearing up, it wasn't too bad. How I wished RDM played in a similar fashion as he did.

    Rather than stand back and casting spells for days before going in for the melee combo.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    Is this the fight where you are told to bring antidotes? If you didn’t have any or didn’t use them, the fight would be tough.
    No, that's the level 70 fight. And you don't need antidotes for that one if you've got Augmented Scaeven gear. The fight won't last long enough for the DoT to be a problem.
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonsprite View Post
    Is this the fight where you are told to bring antidotes? If you didn’t have any or didn’t use them, the fight would be tough.
    Yeah that's the 70 fight and I was amused by how many times and how many characters told you to bring some darn antidotes, lol. I was like "I think they want me to bring some antidotes."
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