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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    I'm fine with one dungeon but putting more depth into the dungeons.

    Things like 1-2 junctures that change randomly to make your route through the dungeon different. Or stuff like switches and/or boss mechanics that change a part of the route you'll take. Not puzzles (who wants puzzles in a daily grind anyways) but just something to offer some kind of variation, more or less on the level of weather changes, you know, something that doesn't affect the rewards nor the time required to do the dungeon, but still give you a different feel.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Dancer Lv 90
    1 dungeon per patch, I've liked the overall quality of the dungeons this expansion comparative to that of the previous ones. So I'd rather them not sacrifice that quality just for the sake of another dungeon, or alternatively I'd like those resources that'd otherwise be spent on that second dungeon to be spent elsewhere in the game, including looking at more innovative approaches to the dungeons themselves, or other innovative content.
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    Malto Thoris
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    White Mage Lv 100
    It is a contentious thing to say the least. On the one hand, it would make the roulettes a bit varied in terms of choices. On the other hand, dungeons are usually just wall to wall pulls even on the day that they drop. There have been times where they've tried to dissuade people from doing it, usually to no avail. That being said, dungeons being tied to the story has made this set a bit more enjoyable than the last.

    Honestly, I'd rather they use their resources to refine and innovate than just another dungeon for the sake of it.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Dungeons are cool, but unless they do something to better differentiate the dungeons having 2 per patch never felt much different than 1 per patch.
    They don't really need to add more than one, so I'm fine with the change.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'd be fine with the current formula if it actually felt like we were getting more bang for our buck. Shadowbringers seemed to have been on a very, very tight budget despite setting records and receiving praise from just about every gaming news outlet. From a business perspective I get it. Less money spent for a bigger payout is smart. It just sucks for the consumer sometimes. I'm also aware that Covid impacted development across the entire industry, but there has been chances to address some pressing issues and those continue to be ignored.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-25-2021 at 04:13 AM.
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Spriggan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    As for dungeons, I've had some ideas that could shake up the formula.


    Change the dungeon layout and give players 2 paths that diverge. Only one path is available in each run.

    Introduce surprise mechanics. Enemies that randomly appear, or a boss that stalks the party through certain segments.

    Give players an incentive to play well. By pulling more mobs or killing them faster, you get better rewards or drops.

    You could introduce new glamour items that are only obtainable by succession of a challenge or various goals.

    Additionally, players will receive points. Indicating their efficency at the dungeon. Those can be traded for items of all kinds.

    Enemy positioning should change to acommodate strategies.

    Players need to devise a quick strategy to successfully survive in certain segments. This could make runs more unique and interesting based on the party composition.

    Bosses are more dynamic and will change over time.

    A boss might transform and do more damage, use different attacks or will require tanks to interrupt more often.
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    Last edited by Shin96; 03-25-2021 at 05:06 AM.

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    Victor Theed
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    Goblin
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    Miner Lv 90
    At least 2 dungeons per patch and can expert roulette have at least 3 dungeons in it.
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Im more than fine with 1 dungeon a patch, dungeons get pretty boring and mundane after the 1st couple of runs. If anything id rather like see them mix things up than the usual, trash, boss, trash, boss deal. Dungeon puzzles, dungeon challenges, maybe last boss changes on how fast or slow you get through dungeon like its charging up its strength or clearing fast enough unlocks a harder version of boss, maybe could have different routes, could split the party, or how about no routes and its just an arena gauntlet with random monster waves and random bosses, maybe get buffs if clear waves fast enough or something. But yeah if they're going keep doing the same old same old 1 dungeon is enough...
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hanayumi View Post
    Im more than fine with 1 dungeon a patch, dungeons get pretty boring and mundane after the 1st couple of runs.
    I actually think that this makes the problem of only getting 1 dungeon per patch even worse. Because those dungeons are so incredibly boring after just 1 run the lack of variety makes it feel even more like a chore.


    You're either going through a new differently colored hallway or going through a differently colored hallway that you've already been going through for 4 months.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 03-25-2021 at 06:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I actually think that this makes the problem of only getting 1 dungeon per patch even worse. Because those dungeons are so incredibly boring after just 1 run the lack of variety makes it feel even more like a chore.
    That said, it really only affects Expert roulette.

    Even if you only do Expert for tomestone, that only takes 5 runs in a week at most to cap where you have one of two choices per run with one of the choices rotating every major patch.

    If you do more (or other) than Expert, then you would require even less runs per week (even 0 if you cap via other means). Meanwhile, by having only two dungeons, it makes it more likely to get the dungeon you want in case you're slowly farming for gear/minion from that dungeon.

    So, like I said, I'm happy either way, but it's certainly not all that bad to have less dungeon per Expert.

    Of course, I've also voiced my opinion in the past that I wouldn't mind if they consider combining Expert and max level dungeon roulettes, but that could mean less chance of getting the new dungeon.
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