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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    I'm going to laugh so hard when the stat squish happens in 6.0 and all these W2W pullers get their rears clapped because they have so much less hp, defense and the reduction out going on damage to accompany the lowered stats..

    Honestly wish SE would finally man up and make all the dungeons simular to Anamnesis Anyder, the adds coming to use then adds blocking the path till cleared and the delayed spawned adds..

    Removing a toxic mentality forcefully my removing the option to force W2W pulls would do so much good for this community
    You’re insinuating with the first statement that dungeons are going to be doing the same amount of damage that the deal to tanks now to a tank with less stats. Damage output from mobs are also going to be “squished”. In all likelihood, the standard large pulls now will deal the relative same amount of damage post-stat squish. So, in short, nothing will change. If they squish job stats by 50% (random number), mobs will also be squished by that same 50%.

    Delayed add spawns are annoying. Especially for a healer. I want to actually feel like a healer—not just a gimped DPS with a few healing oGCDs I only use sometimes in any given dungeon. Currently, I can go an entire Expert dungeon with the only healing I do being a regen on the tank and oGCD heals. I don’t have to press Benefic II or Aspected Helios at all unless I’m going for overheal %.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    You’re insinuating with the first statement that dungeons are going to be doing the same amount of damage that the deal to tanks now to a tank with less stats. Damage output from mobs are also going to be “squished”. In all likelihood, the standard large pulls now will deal the relative same amount of damage post-stat squish. So, in short, nothing will change. If they squish job stats by 50% (random number), mobs will also be squished by that same 50%.

    Delayed add spawns are annoying. Especially for a healer. I want to actually feel like a healer—not just a gimped DPS with a few healing oGCDs I only use sometimes in any given dungeon. Currently, I can go an entire Expert dungeon with the only healing I do being a regen on the tank and oGCD heals. I don’t have to press Benefic II or Aspected Helios at all unless I’m going for overheal %.
    Partially correct, but sadly they are not stat squishing all content. A good number of older raids and dungeons are going to regain some of their former difficulty from it. Especially if you are going in unsync'd which is something the dev's warned about, that soloing is going to get tougher. Just looked at post that was discussing it cause I couldnt remeber the level range that would be affected. The level range where the squish is going to happen is between 51-80..
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 04-03-2021 at 01:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    I'm going to laugh so hard when the stat squish happens in 6.0 and all these W2W pullers get their rears clapped because they have so much less hp, defense and the reduction out going on damage to accompany the lowered stats..

    Honestly wish SE would finally man up and make all the dungeons simular to Anamnesis Anyder, the adds coming to use then adds blocking the path till cleared and the delayed spawned adds..

    Removing a toxic mentality forcefully my removing the option to force W2W pulls would do so much good for this community
    Yes, let's reduce the stats of the player, and not reduce the stats of the enemies to compensate. What's that? Can't kill the Titania NM enrage because we've adjusted the player damage output but not the enemy HP values? What's that? People in King Moogle Mog Normal are dying to unavoidable raidwide damage because it's not scaled properly to the player HP values, something that ALREADY happened to new players because they weren't walking around in synced gear? What about literally any synced content, including FATES, Bozja, or Eureka, or min ilvl? How do basic game activities operate if you don't also balance the entire other half of the game?

    Ironically, outside of the Disneyland Experience at the beginning of Anamesis Anyder, it probably has the absolute best big pull in the game since Mount Gulg. Just kill 2nd boss, voke an enemy on the ramp down with the increased range to start the delayed summoning early, sprint to the end of the room, gap close into the first enemy in the last group to start their summoning, and by the time that cast finishes, everything is on top of you with cooldowns ready to go! Probably should instead use something like Hullbreaker or Wanderer's Palace Hard Mode as examples, which is telling, because we haven't had gates that bad/unnecessary for years.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 04-02-2021 at 11:35 PM.

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    Arya Diavolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    I'm going to laugh so hard when the stat squish happens in 6.0 and all these W2W pullers get their rears clapped because they have so much less hp, defense and the reduction out going on damage to accompany the lowered stats..

    Honestly wish SE would finally man up and make all the dungeons simular to Anamnesis Anyder, the adds coming to use then adds blocking the path till cleared and the delayed spawned adds..

    Removing a toxic mentality forcefully my removing the option to force W2W pulls would do so much good for this community
    Imagine thinking that a stat squish is actually going to stop players from pulling wall to wall. Couldn't be me chief, no sir.
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    Junji Lucilfer
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    Tbf either the tank too slow or to keep buffs rolling should be when dps pull mobs. In a speed setting you’d alternate mobs for arms length usage but coordinated dungeon is something nobody does outside of frands
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    The way I understand it, it's mostly going to be unsynced stuff that's effective.

    Assuming they get the math right, individual content at the level it was intended to be run at will still be about the same.

    It's stuff like unsyncing old raids that will be affected, because they're reducing the power creep from HW/SB/SHB, so instead of multiple expansions of huge power creep you'll only really be benefitting from one in Endwalker.

    So dungeon roulettes shouldn't really be affected too much, but unsyncing old raids etc will be.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    My thoughts:

    1. It's the DF, What-You-Get-Is-What-You-Get, stop complaining. If you want consistent times everyday, make some friends.
    2. A good tank/healer/dps can adjust to big pulls and small pulls. A player who is unwilling to is not a good player, just a crybaby.
    3. Profit.
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    My thoughts:

    1. It's the DF, What-You-Get-Is-What-You-Get, stop complaining. If you want consistent times everyday, make some friends.
    I'll remember this rule when I get 2 afk dps in my expert. They pay their fair share after all, so I just gotta accept it.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    I'll remember this rule when I get 2 afk dps in my expert
    I've seen many things. Some great, some terrible. This is one thing I have never seen though.
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