DPS who pull mobs

[HisShadowX]

#1 If you're not dying then it's all good. Their job is to keep you alive through unavoidable damage, not to top you off 99% of time. Heck if they're doing this even in big/wall pulls, they definitely knew what they're doing. Relax, you're in good hands!

#2 I've answered this few pages earlier, but yes when they bring the mob to you there's definitely nothing to fuss about.

#3 Perhaps Vote Dismiss is a good opt to consider at that point. I'm sorry to hear that you had to deal with these 'funny behavior'.

Also, you double posted there, mate xD

Haha yes I’m sorry about that I am reading your posts on my computer and responding via my iPhone. For some reason my original post did not show up and it was still in my mobile quick replies.

About your response to 1 yes as long I am not dying I have no problem but when I wiped a couple times it becomes a problem. Of course if this is a new player I try to work with them. When I go into a leveling section that is random I try to help as much as I can.

#3 This can be a problem if we had a member go offline and we voted to dismiss to get a toxic player. I was just in Prea last week when I defended our healer and second tank who commented out loud that we need to kick those doing nothing.

We had the entire DPS team literally waiting for us with no magitek armor and wanted the healers and tanks to do it all for them. This led to me sticking up for my healers complaining which led to the entire dps teaming harassing all of us which I then had to make a formal harassment compliant because the DPS decided to literally ‘hold our hands’ by standing right next to the tanks during the boss battles which led to them dying and even the healers just refused to use resurrection on them

[Jijifli]

The issue with this concept is the majority of the healers who have the mentality of healing once the tank is below 15% typically it causes the tank to die numerous times and often can cause a wipe.

I recently had a wipe after the Healer outright refused to heal and after his lack of healing caused my death and this proceeded for next critical 20 seconds to not heal anyone and keep DPSing. This is a problem and instead of healing he decided once EVERYONE was under 20% health only then did that person resurrect me. At that point I wondered what was the point in even resurrecting myself (which I clicked yes to) because once I finally came to everyone was pretty much dead.

Very few parties I have ever been involved in with a healer who did this did it work out. Some are great multi taskers and that well enough but some seem to forget their role as healer and just flat out fail to heal.

As a tank I should never die unless I messed up the mechanics or pulled way to much and typically I will judge my pulls according to if I notice a healer struggles through large or even medium pulls. I try to graciously go according to what my healer can handle and if it’s a new healer I work with them.

I will say, a healer not remembering to heal you is not the fault of them dpsing, that's the fault of them being stupid.

I've had healers too that have let me die, and were doing 0 dps. Quite literally afk, but "Oops I wasn't paying attention sorry".

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

this reads like back peddling because people didn't agree with you, tbh.

"this is an old attitude from years ago I've, I've grown past this!" doesn't really land well when you've spent several pages defending that attitude and using current and future language like "am," will," and "are."

And here it is...rofl. Just as predicted
Im not gonna bother debating it, because its just gonna needlessly reignite the argument that Im trying to squash.
Its up to you if you wanna listen to and understand what I typed.

[LianaThorne]

And here it is...rofl. Just as predicted
Im not gonna bother debating it, because its just gonna needlessly reignite the argument that Im trying to squash.
Its up to you if you wanna listen to and understand what I typed.

I would just....not. yeah.....

[Rilifane]

I will say, a healer not remembering to heal you is not the fault of them dpsing, that's the fault of them being stupid.

I've had healers too that have let me die, and were doing 0 dps. Quite literally afk, but "Oops I wasn't paying attention sorry".

Pretty much this.
Bad healers are bad healers not because they dps too much but because they simply space out and forget to heal. Wether that's the half-asleep Glare bot or the pure healer type. It's not about not being able to multitask and rather a matter of not paying attention at all.

[ForteNightshade]

I will say, a healer not remembering to heal you is not the fault of them dpsing, that's the fault of them being stupid.

I've had healers too that have let me die, and were doing 0 dps. Quite literally afk, but "Oops I wasn't paying attention sorry".

This reminds me of an experiment I tried in Heavensward. If I didn't see Cleric Stance on within the first 20-25 seconds, I let you solo heal. My only exceptions were new healers or if it was clear said healer simply couldn't, I'd try to save the run.

The sheer amount of "I just wanna heal!" healers who had absolutely no idea how to do just that was both shocking and amusing. I even got yelled at by a WHM with accuracy melds who couldn't heal the beginning portion of A12N without completely running out of MP. They tried to give me a lecture about stance dancing... which they never did. What made it hilarious is the DRK called them out as a healer main asking how in the hell they ran out of MP before adds? They promptly left.

[NekoHina]

Or the DPS could burn the current group away that sticks on the tank and then proceed to the next one.

Almost as bad as healers pulling the next group and "Rescue" the tank into them.

Now THAT is truly griefing...

[Arkdra]

Please use Arm's Lentgh if you can
Mine is probably on CD

I'll do that AND bloodbath!

Edit: Every bad healer I have ever had has been a healbot. Not a one of them has been a healer that dps's. If a healer is dpsing and somebody dies, that's fine. Mistakes happen, no reason to get mad about it. I think everyone that heals has been there. Nobody can be perfect all the time after all. But the clowns who only heal are already sandbagging the run to begin with and when they inevitably let someone die because all they know is how to spam cure 1 or jerk off to whatever's on their 2nd screen, well my willingness to let it slide is 0.

I mean, I still let it slide because it's just a dungeon, but I will complain about in ls/fc chat and the stereotype is reinforced.

[Mavrias]

And here it is...rofl. Just as predicted
Im not gonna bother debating it, because its just gonna needlessly reignite the argument that Im trying to squash.
Its up to you if you wanna listen to and understand what I typed.

hey man I understand what you typed, it just doesn't sound honest based on the previous eight posts. you don't really need to debate it if you don't want to, its just my opinion, not something I'm presenting as a hard fact.

you know the truth of your playstyle, whether its what I think or not, and thats all that matters.

[Awha]

And here it is...rofl. Just as predicted
Im not gonna bother debating it, because its just gonna needlessly reignite the argument that Im trying to squash.
Its up to you if you wanna listen to and understand what I typed.

Did that back pedal give ya whiplash? Kinda hard to believe you meant past tense especially when my posts were hypothetical situations and you answered them with the stance of letting the person die.

So why answer hypothetical situations given to you know with a mindset you had 4 years ago?

Seems weird.