The decline of the community

[Raelsar]

Weeeeell...

The one thing of comment I think of is the increasing volume of WoW refugees (which is moreso about that game slipping further into the abyss of its own making), and sometimes they'll bring with them some bad habits and behaviours that need reining in.

But then again, that may not be the source of the issues here?

What do I mean by degeneracy? It's all those people in Limsa Lominsa and similar places where people constantly ERP, abuse the emotes to spam and/or try to mimic erotic sounds. It's all of those ERP people in group finders, it's all of those 18+ FC's where the people are more interested in the NSFW channels they have on their discord servers and running a brothel in their FC house than in the actual game. It's all those people yelling stupid memes in the cities or in instances instead of having a normal human conversation.

From what I've seen, they're mostly harmless.
So long as you're firm and direct with them, they'll generally not bother you.

That being said, squirming and being awkward around them is like blood in the water and sharks. They'll detect the uncertainty that is often associated with lashing out, and start being more *ahem* "playful" around the person to try and get them to "open up" a bit.

After all, to them, it's all in good fun... but if it's really making you that uncomfortable, just be firm and direct when you tell them to back off. No outrage or venting, just firmly and politely ask them to leave you be.

Set the boundaries, then live and let live.

[Ammokkx]

*ahem*

ERP BAD. ERP BAD. ERP BAD.

...Nope, I still don't get why people love hammering on this.

[Araxes]

For me personally the Problems are as follows: If you do not have all, or at least some, Savagesbosses down people look at you and call you a bad player/ noob, whatever. Witch results in them not giving you any attention. Sadly, a lot of people tend to buy themselves kills now to not "suffer" from this and get the attention they desire.

Others simply stop caring about others, or more specificly, stop caring about what they say cause they will only say bad things about/have a bad opinion about "you" anyway--> at least in "your" head. Witch then results in them distancing from others, not answering questions, not noticing you approaching them even if you have friendly intentions. They basically become what they tried to avoid.

At large, the Playerbase itself changed over the years and is driving itself apart. It is just like modern society: If people dont know you and you dont have a certain status, you get ignored, shunned, laughed at.
Humanity being human is the Problem. But those are just my observations. Dont take my words as rock solid fact.

I myself raided Savage a long time cause for some reason i had it in my head that it was expected of me. A lot of people asked me questions back when i was in the Top 100 ranks and they expected me to have all the answers. They were often quite dissapointed when i wasnt able to give them a rock solid answer.

It took me until a few months to just do what is FUN to ME. So is stopped Savageraiding, stuck only to Extremes cause i like them. Play only when i want to, what content i like to play and so on. Life has become much easier since then.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

For me personally the Problems are as follows: If you do not have all, or at least some, Savagesbosses down people look at you and call you a bad player/ noob, whatever. Witch results in them not giving you any attention. Sadly, a lot of people tend to buy themselves kills now to not "suffer" from this and get the attention they desire.

Others simply stop caring about others, or more specificly, stop caring about what they say cause they will only say bad things about/have a bad opinion about "you" anyway--> at least in "your" head. Witch then results in them distancing from others, not answering questions, not noticing you approaching them even if you have friendly intentions. They basically become what they tried to avoid.

At large, the Playerbase itself changed over the years and is driving itself apart. It is just like modern society: If people dont know you and you dont have a certain status, you get ignored, shunned, laughed at.
Humanity being human is the Problem. But those are just my observations. Dont take my words as rock solid fact.

This was a thing in 2.0. Again, nothing has changed, you are just more exposed to it.


Social media has grown exponentially since 2013 and 2014. Discord is used, which aggregates a lot of this, where before you had separate voice servers for every little group, and no real out of game text chat.

Social dynamics have changed a lot since the game launched. That's not the games fault. That's a societal thing.


Also the pandemic hasn't helped. People can't do anything so it comes out elsewhere.

[Puremallace]

lol uhhh the same community you are lawding in these magical times you speak of is the same one that Square Enix had to issue some of the most restrictive community measures in MMO history to control. Prior to those restrictions FF14 community was pretty famous for some wild stuff. It was so bad that they were going to be forced to change the rating of the game lol

[EnigmaticDodo]

probably a troll thread, because there seems to be a trend of shaming the RP community, erp or not.

but boohoo.

Allow me to play a song for you on the worlds smallest violin.

Don't engage w/ it if it doesn't interest you.

[Shinklet]

I swear, sometimes people in this forum just make up problems with the community in their mind then get mad at the community for it.

[Ardeth]

I swear, sometimes people in this forum just make up problems with the community in their mind then get mad at the community for it.

Bingo.

And for whatever reason RPers are their current targets.

They see them think

[rance-sama]

Bingo.

And for whatever reason RPers are their current targets.

They see them think

It's often the same group of people LARPing as some crusader being all "crush the RP degenerancy!!1 xDD"
They must be gluttons for punishment because everytime they get mocked and made fun of. Probably due some highschool trauma or something.

[Ardeth]

It's often the same group of people LARPing as some crusader being all "crush the RP degenerancy!!1 xDD"
They must be gluttons for punishment because everytime they get mocked and made fun of. Probably due some highschool trauma or something.

Personally I don't even like RPing or Housing for that matter I think both are equally as stupid and I'm not crusading for there removal. Let people like what they like and just ignore it. As long as it's not hurting anyone why should they even care? It's just a video game at the end of the day.