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  1. #1
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    KaerisKlyne's Avatar
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    Hjarta I'kastala
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Hmmm okay some SMN thoughts/kinda wishlist:

    - make demi-Bahamut part of DWT at 70 rather than it's own part of the rotation, with a trait that also changes our attack spells the way FBT does (I really want consistency in this kit)

    - demi-primal auto-attacks independent of our GCD on their own set intervals

    - a third demi-primal at new level cap, trance works like FBT does now, new attack changes accompanying

    - make demi-primals not prioritize movement over attacking

    - trait that changes Ruin 3 to Ruin 5

    - trait: Outburst upgraded to Outburst 2

    - trait: Miasma III to some new DoT spell, same for Bio III (just upped potencies with new names like what happened with Biolysis on SCH)

    - trait: at level 58 or 68, Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda egi are replaced with Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan egi respectively (same roles). Another trait at 68 or 78 that upgrades them to a different set of primals we've encountered (I'm assuming they won't get rid of egi so I'm proposing this as an improvement on the existing system as a middle-ground)

    - At 30: Aetherflow changed to a gauge that fills as we use Energy Drain/Siphon (would love to just have this be Aspir and Aspir II for AoE) + egi assaults. Gauge can be spent on single target or AoE skills of primals we don't get egi for as one-off oGCD attacks replacing Fester and Painflare, which I'd like to see removed for more SMN flavoured oGCDs.
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    Swygnebb Ahldhyltsyn
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    - trait that changes Ruin 3 to Ruin 5
    Not gonna happen. At least not as "Ruin V".

    Ruin III and Ruin IV are known as Ruinga and Ruinja (respectively) in the JP. version.
    And the -ja suffix for spells are the highest tiered ones in the series.

    So at best, they could introduce a brand new spell to replace it, just like what they did with WHM (i.e. Stone IV -> Glare).

    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    - trait: at level 58 or 68, Ifrit, Titan, and Garuda egi are replaced with Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan egi respectively (same roles). Another trait at 68 or 78 that upgrades them to a different set of primals we've encountered (I'm assuming they won't get rid of egi so I'm proposing this as an improvement on the existing system as a middle-ground)
    It'd be much easier if they simply expanded on the "Egi glamour" system (like they promised) and allowed us to change them into any Egi we wanted.
    Which is way, way overdue.
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Not gonna happen. At least not as "Ruin V".

    Ruin III and Ruin IV are known as Ruinga and Ruinja (respectively) in the JP. version.
    And the -ja suffix for spells are the highest tiered ones in the series.

    So at best, they could introduce a brand new spell to replace it, just like what they did with WHM (i.e. Stone IV -> Glare).


    It'd be much easier if they simply expanded on the "Egi glamour" system (like they promised) and allowed us to change them into any Egi we wanted.
    Which is way, way overdue.
    Aaaah good to know, thank you!

    I'd be fine with egi glams, but it's totally a wish to just have the traited upgrades. I'm playing either way hahaha.
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    Reaper Lv 90
    BLM is perfect at 80 right now. But regardless, just give us Fire V, please!

    Though I do agree lower leveled jobs all across the board -- not just Black Mage, needs some tuning and work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostZukin View Post
    BLM is perfect at 80 right now. But regardless, just give us Fire V, please!

    Though I do agree lower leveled jobs all across the board -- not just Black Mage, needs some tuning and work.
    Once again, not gonna happen as "Fire V".
    Best case scenario, they could replace it with another spell entirely as an upgrade for it (like WHM's Stone IV -> Glare).
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Once again, not gonna happen as "Fire V".
    Best case scenario, they could replace it with another spell entirely as an upgrade for it (like WHM's Stone IV -> Glare).
    Meltdown would probably serve as a Fire 5 unless they consider Despair to be Fire 5.

    Which looks worse then Fire 4/Firaja.
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    Ayis Luola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    Once again, not gonna happen as "Fire V".
    Best case scenario, they could replace it with another spell entirely as an upgrade for it (like WHM's Stone IV -> Glare).
    Depends on if they take from the Kingdom Hearts series, which uses the same naming scheme as FF. There is the "-za" from that series and I don't think we know where it falls in terms of the naming scheme power
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade3173 View Post
    Depends on if they take from the Kingdom Hearts series, which uses the same naming scheme as FF. There is the "-za" from that series and I don't think we know where it falls in terms of the naming scheme power
    Thus far, it's only been used in the KH series (and nowhere else).
    It remains to be seen whether it stays exclusive to it or not.

    For now though, the -ja suffix will remain the highest tier for spells in the FF series.
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Well I've mained SMN since beta so I would first like to see it streamed lined into a more cohesive rotation. It's have too many gimmicks that just don't mesh well together.
    • First would be DWT and Bahamut. I like what they did with FBT but don't want to copy it. Rather I would like to see something like this. DWT Summons Bahamut @ 70 and changes Ruin III to Ruin IV, Bahamut would use Wyrmwave as an auto attack with 2.5s. Casting a spell would add a chance that would Wyrmwave would upgrade to Megaflare (higher pot AoE attack). Then change his Enkindle to GigaFlare. Next Bahamut and Phoenix would have a larger radius (double) for their attacks but not follow the player while in combat. Rather they would be grounded at the spot they are summoned to help prevent the missed attacks caused by movement.
    • Second would be Aetherflow. Aetherflow would be useable outside of combat but would be the main resource for Egi Assaults. Aether stack would help charge a gauge for new summon. More on that down below.
    • Third would be Egi Titan and Devotion. I think it's time to put Titan to bed and just change it to a Titan Summon animation that applies Earthen Armor to the player. Devotion would just be a Sophia Animation that applies the buff to the party.
    • Next would be Egi Appearance. Number one complaint still is Egi appearance along with Egi Glamour. I believe it time to add these feature in 6.0. Doesn't have to be the size of Demi, maybe Hume? Appearance doesn't even have to be that of FFXIV Primals. You can add a new appearance all together.
    • Last would be new Summon Mechanic. After 4 Aether Stacks (Egi Assaults) a new summon is ready; Tempist Odin for Single Attack and Tempist Alexander for AoE. Once used, the summoner starts written in their book and a charge gauge starts to build. Once full or the summoner moves, the Summon is called that does an attack then disappears (one and done).
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    MNK needs less RNG...
    I am beginning to get really damn frustrated with how inconsistent my damage is, there's obviously RNG with all Jobs but on SAM and NIN I never feel like whether I'll do trash damage for my gear is dependent on RNG.
    It's more like I do normal damage and if I get lucky I reach higher numbers, but on MNK it feels more like '' am I going to do shit damage or ok damage? ''.

    It's especially frustrating because of how hard I have to weigh between lower ilvl gear because of higher crit or higher ilvl but less crit which only makes the RNG problem worse.
    Upgrading your gear shouldn't feel like a sacrifice.

    I am getting so tired of feeling like MNK as a Job is constantly working against me and as if I have to actively try and struggle just to have fun.
    Bit ranty but holy shit it has been especially bad today and I am legit getting mad, I just want to be able to enjoy my favorite Job...
    The worst thing about it is that I don't even feel happy when RNG is on my side, I just feel relieved.
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