A potential rework to the level-sync system.

[Deceptus]

It wouldn't make the dungeon/tria/raid any faster or slower, and it wouldn't solve anything otherwise. How about no. Terrible, terrible idea. I'd rather not suffer through a piece of content while John/Jane Doe sits at the start AFK knowing they can't be kicked, because if something can be abused it most certainly will be.

So which is it? Do we protect new players from veteran abuse, or do we let new players abuse other people?

If you're so sure that veterans WILL abuse the system, which for some reason so many do, then new players need protected.

Then you're going to say, that new players can't have that protection because they'll abuse it? It's nothing more than circular reasoning fallacy.

I really think people overestimate how often this stuff actually happens.

[Vahlnir]

So which is it? Do we protect new players from veteran abuse, or do we let new players abuse other people?

If you're so sure that veterans WILL abuse the system, which for some reason so many do, then new players need protected.

Then you're going to say, that new players can't have that protection because they'll abuse it? It's nothing more than circular reasoning fallacy.

We let the system as is because it's working as intended, and leave what abuse that can happen to the GMs to sort out. Neither side needs to be "protected". They both need to act accordingly. A system that doesn't play favorites is the best system when it comes to game moderation.

[Frizze]

I really think people overestimate how often this stuff actually happens.

I dont think anyone is saying this stuff happens all the time. Its between uncommon and rare at this point. But that doesnt mean that it isnt happening, and it doesnt mean we should make big sweeping changes that could make things worse. I have never initiated a vote kick for someone who was online, and have never voted to kick someone who didnt truly deserve it(including filling out the follow up report after they were removed a few times). Im 1000 times more likely to nope right out of the run and eat the penalty. I also know that i dont represent everyone. However, I do understand that making a class of people immune to being kicked would lead to problems just as much as giving people reasons to not want to play with newer players would lead to problems.