A potential rework to the level-sync system.

[Kemiko]

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BLU isn't even a real job. It's a Limited Job. It's not a good example of anything other than a job intended to be outside the norm.

And good job moving the goal post. Nothing here was brought up about weapon damage, just your job abilities in sync content. Higher level job abilities generally comes with higher potency, which translates to more damage. So, by default, if you kept these job abilities in content not intended for them to exist you'll be doing more than the intended damage. But wait, what if your potencies were reduced to compensate for this?

You will also have more job abilities than intended, allowing you more actions than intended. Using the worst offender, Sastasha with an at level player will be outshined by a lv80 player, even if said 80 was nerfed heavily to compensate. But, nerf them harder, I hear. In which case you're putting in a tremendous amount of effort to reach the average LV15 players state of play that not even on release max level Extreme trials demand. Very quickly people will question the purpose of being so heavily nerfed when the game is supposed to be a welcoming experience.

I really hate to say that I honestly agree with the "just don't do it then" sentiment as much as I think it's a poor answer to this discussion. As much as people would enjoy keeping their kit throughout the game, the fact of the matter is you do not in situations you agree to. You agree to a sync in a dungeon before you go in, you agree to a sync in a FATE before you participate in it, you agree to a sync for single-player duties if you happen to be overleveled when you attempt it. At no point are you forced to do any of this, even Main Scenario, if you really don't want to. And, at least outside of Main Scenario, you aren't missing anything for not doing it. You are granted incentive for sure, but let's not pretend we aren't privy to intention sync attempts to provide.

If you must do a low level dungeon, and you aren't agreeing to the rules of a roulette, you always do have the option to undersize it solo or with others looking to do the same. In the case of you going into a roulette and all involved are not new to the instance hardly means they aren't using it for the other incentives provided (such as boosted experience) and could still be at-level with the content. In the event all present are max level, you're just here for the tomes - we all know this and you knew what you signed up for. That's the nature of the deal.

[Deceptus]

I really hate to say that I honestly agree with the "just don't do it then" sentiment as much as I think it's a poor answer to this discussion. As much as people would enjoy keeping their kit throughout the game, the fact of the matter is you do not in situations you agree to. You agree to a sync in a dungeon before you go in, you agree to a sync in a FATE before you participate in it, you agree to a sync for single-player duties if you happen to be overleveled when you attempt it. At no point are you forced to do any of this, even Main Scenario, if you really don't want to. And, at least outside of Main Scenario, you aren't missing anything for not doing it. You are granted incentive for sure, but let's not pretend we aren't privy to intention sync attempts to provide.

Here's why the "Just don't do it" mindset doesn't work.

Fewer players in the roulettes results in higher queue times. Do you really want the return of 30 minute queues for dps players?

Veteran players need an incentive to queue for things that might not benefit them. IMHO being synced to content where you go from 24 buttons to 2 is more of a disincentive to queue for certain content.

[linayar]

Here's why the "Just don't do it" mindset doesn't work.

Fewer players in the roulettes results in higher queue times. Do you really want the return of 30 minute queues for dps players?

Veteran players need an incentive to queue for things that might not benefit them. IMHO being synced to content where you go from 24 buttons to 2 is more of a disincentive to queue for certain content.

I don't usually see 30-minute DPS queues with the system as is right now, so this particular argument doesn't make sense.

And as we've established, SE has other ways to incentivize running old contents.

[Deceptus]

I don't usually see 30-minute DPS queues with the system as is right now, so this particular argument doesn't make sense.

And as we've established, SE has other ways to incentivize running old contents.

They used to exist. That's the point. And will come back if people stop queuing into the roulettes.

[Xtrasweettea]

Concern trolling about possible DPS queue times.

Not my responsibility as someone who mains tanks and healers to make sure DPS queue times are short. I am not 2nd class citizen to DPS.

Allowing me to use my full level 80 skill set in Satasha is not going to make me queue for DR as a tank or healer. The current awards don't even make want to go into DR leveling, DR Trials, and DR 50/60/70 as a capped player.

The alternatives out there are better for EXP/hour or rewards.

SE is going to need to give the better long-term incentives those other DRs as a capped tank and healer main. Give me a reason to go into DR Trials where I spend more time in one Titania fight than a whole Expert Dungeon. Give me a reason to go into DR leveling where I end up out damaging the two DPS as a healer in Shisui of the Violet Tides. Give me a reason to go into 50/60/70 DR where it’s Keeper of the Lake for the 100th time and it’s more MP efficient for me to not raise the same DPS who keep dying to mechanics and to just keep casting damage spells.

Until better long-term incentives are provided, I will keep on doing DR Expert and alternative activities for things I need. That includes me using squads for low level dungeons to add seals to Wonderous tales… which a group of Rank 5 offensive squad members (1 MRD, 2 DPS… preferred rouge, archer, or arcanist), is faster than with real people.

[Penthea]

Veteran players need an incentive to queue for things that might not benefit them. IMHO being synced to content where you go from 24 buttons to 2 is more of a disincentive to queue for certain content.

There are already incentives: tomes and xp.

Players are not going to run content solely because they get to keep all their skills. Players generally do content to get something or to help someone else get something. Even if someone were to abstain from doing lower lvl roulettes to get tomes, the fact remains that they are queuing for content because they want tomes.

Remove the tomes and xp gains, and replace them with giving players all their skills in any content, you would actually see a drop in the amount of people who do lower lvl roulettes. Why? Because they would simply go elsewhere to get some manner of useful loot. Having all your skills isn't enough of an incentive for most people to do content because it would be seen as a waste of time to do content for no reward for themselves or a buddy they're helping.

Having a Sastasha lvl of kit isn't exciting to say the least, but I can guarantee it wouldn't be much more fun if you had your full kit. The mobs aren't designed to be against players with massive kits and the lack of mechanics would mean many skills just wouldn't be used, especially with the increased dps from major cds and ogcds resulting in things dying much faster. Adjusting the damage output isn't enough if a player has more buttons to press in a gcd than a player who is actually the lvl the content is intended for.

I don't find it particularly fun to have most of my kit wiped out, but I understand that low lvl content isn't balanced for veteran players, it's balanced for novices. So when I do content that is intended for a novice I expect to be faced with a situation that only a novice would find interesting. On the days in which I want more or my full kit I simply avoid putting myself into a situation that could land me in super low lvl content.

First impressions matter. As I said in my previous post had the dungeon content I did when I started FFXIV been a faceroll due to being matched up with higher lvl players blasting things with their huge kits then I would have left the game. Sure some sprouts may not know any better, but not every sprout is new to mmos, and many would be turned off by being unable to entirely avoid being boosted while using DF. Never mind how you don't need to be an experienced player to find being unable to learn your class to be frustrating because you're unwillingly getting carried.

And frankly I don't think anyone's desire to have their full kit in all content is a good enough reason to ruin the first impressions the game has on new players. If you want your full kit then do content that allows you to use it. That's not difficult to do.