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  1. #1
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    MoltresRider's Avatar
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    Moltres Rider
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    Ultros
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    Summoner Lv 100

    Why am I typically last priority for Main Scenario roulettes??

    This has been frequently happening since the Moogle event. I queue for main scenario roulette five minutes after reset time, it goes from waiting list number 5 to waiting list number 1 in under two minutes and then I wait... I wait... I wait, 15 minutes or greater at role waiting list number 1 before queue pops.

    Been almost every day since the event. Being that it is shortly after reset time, it is level 50 only, so people behind me should NOT jump the queue and people ARE queuing, there should be absolutely zero reason for this.

    OBVIOUSLY the game gives me last priority for main scenario roulettes.

    Why am I ALWAYS LAST priority???
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    The only way people would queue jump is if people are queing together..

    You might queue as a tank for example. and be number 1 in the queue..
    But if I queued in a party with 2 friends on my tank with a friend on there's and another friend playing healer. Then there's a good chance we'd jump the queue and be put inthe duty before you.

    The duty finder system prioritises making a full group over sticking exclusively to the queue order. So even if there are 10 tanks in the queue. 50 dps. but just 1 healer... the duty finder can't make a full group..

    So when we come along with our 2 tank 1 healer party.. We'll jump straight to the front of the queue as the second healer the duty finder needs to make a full group is in our party. so now our tanks will jump straight to the front of the queue. and get mathced with the healer in the queue and the top 4 dps. (unless any of the dps happen to be partied with that other healer then they'd jump to the front of the dps queue just like we jumped to the front of the tanks.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 03-21-2021 at 04:29 AM.

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    Player lezard21's Avatar
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I also think that the game tries to do a full group for something, and if for some reason it fails to do so (say a DPS afks and doesn't respond for queue) it moves down on the list to the next something it can make a group for.

    For example, you are a tank queued for Alphascape v4. There are 2 other tanks, 2 healers and 5 DPS, but they are all queued for normal raid roulette. The queue pops matching you with 1 of the tanks from Normal Raid roulette, the 2 healers and 4 of the 5 DPS. However 1 of the DPS fails to respond, so normal raid roulette moves to the next DPS in line. However that DPS is level 60 so he cannot join Alphascape v4. So matchmaking grabs the 2 tanks from Normal Raid roulette, the 2 healers and the 4 remaining DPS and queues them for a level 60 Raid, and now you have to wait for 1 tank, 2 healers and 4 other DPS to queue for either normal raid roulette or Alphascape v4.
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  4. #4
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    If you're a DPS this is basically the norm because of how popular the role is as well. I've sat in hour+ long queues as DPS and when I swap to healer it's 99% of the time an instant queue. Tanks are in a similar boat but I personally think their queue times aren't as quick as heals is. If you want to bypass all that, grab a healer from your FC that likes to grind and drag em with you. Or can check the PF for healers/tanks doing free queues for people since I've seen them a lot more lately.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    When I used to queue for this as a DPS, I would become #1 in the queue but still had to wait over an hour. The average time, which kept updating, indicated to me that parties were successfully forming for it, but that I was not in them.

    After I got in and completed it, I looked at my contacts list. Each and every tank and healer shared a world with a respective DPS. Only one of the tanks or healers queued solo and that's why I was able to get in.

    A lot more people play DPS so it's with them all trying to do the content, there may not be enough tanks or healers to match with all the DPS, but the issue I experienced is a common reason as well.
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    Iris Nakiri
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    Omega
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Oh so parties get priority, that explains things, it would make sense people would abuse that in order to get ahead in the ques, especially the people that would be specifically waiting for the reset to que.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    Oh so parties get priority, that explains things, it would make sense people would abuse that in order to get ahead in the ques, especially the people that would be specifically waiting for the reset to que.
    Yeah I mean abuse is a strong word but yes generally people queue as a group to avoid queue times.
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    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Alessia Adaka
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    Moogle
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    Oh so parties get priority, that explains things, it would make sense people would abuse that in order to get ahead in the ques, especially the people that would be specifically waiting for the reset to que.
    Abuse implies that they're doing something that isn't allowed. I'd find 'make use of it' more accurate.
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    Anya Synia
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    Moogle
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    Dancer Lv 90
    It's not abuse to make a party to skip the queue. Me and my fc do it regularly, its helping each other out.
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph2449 View Post
    Oh so parties get priority, that explains things, it would make sense people would abuse that in order to get ahead in the ques, especially the people that would be specifically waiting for the reset to que.
    They don't get priority.. the Duty Finders priority is Making full groups. Sometimes you'll find you can be waiting even longer in a party that you would solo. as 2 or 3 queuing parties might not be matchable.

    party a might be 2 tanks 1 healer.
    party b might be 2 healers and 2 dps
    party c might be 1 tank 1 heal and 4 dps

    The Duty Finder cannot put those 3 parties together in the queue so they're all stuck waiting. and while you may think party c may have a super fast queue its not always the case if alot of the people queueing as tank and healer are also in a party with a dps friend..
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    Last edited by Dzian; 03-21-2021 at 06:25 AM.

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