And loads and loads of discords for this and that as well..
And loads and loads of discords for this and that as well..
The decentralization is likely due to the sudden death of one of the big info sites towards the end of HW(?). At that time there existed a site (XIVdatabase?) with a very large and easily searchable database of gear, FATEs, instances, quests, mobs and NPCs than most of the western playerbase used heavily. One day the owner of the site stopped updating it, sold it to someone else and the new owner quickly shut the site down. Since that happened the information support portion of the playerbase has been a bit wary of going all in one basket.I think the issue is that nothing is centralized. The individual parts are all amazing and work really well, Garlond Tools is a life saver as is SkyWatcher and all the community driven guides on singular pieces of content, but no one group is interested in consolidating. Which I can't really blame them for recently as a LOT of it is behind discord servers like The Balance and copying everything to an actual website would be a pain. That said it's never been much of an issue in my experience because the tools that ARE there aren't too hard to find and are usually just a google search away.
Yep I remember that. There's been other attempts since then like the Moogle Post, which imploded because one of the creators had some serious allegations levied against them, but almost all of them have gone up in flames in some way or another. Given how it's happened more than once and just how many people are content running individual sites for specific niches I doubt we'll ever get an all-in-one website for this game. Not without significant efforts.The decentralization is likely due to the sudden death of one of the big info sites towards the end of HW(?). At that time there existed a site (XIVdatabase?) with a very large and easily searchable database of gear, FATEs, instances, quests, mobs and NPCs than most of the western playerbase used heavily. One day the owner of the site stopped updating it, sold it to someone else and the new owner quickly shut the site down. Since that happened the information support portion of the playerbase has been a bit wary of going all in one basket.
That has to be one of the best game website names I have ever come across.
I think this is a big reason why we don't have a website like Wowhead for FFXIV. It's simple to set up and every discord is free publicity for S.E.
Meanwhile, Wowhead is an organization. It has employees and their business is the website. Would S.E. be willing to work with an outside company who wishes to run an encompassing website along the lines of WoWhead for FFXIV? Honestly, I'm not sure.
It takes a lot of time, money, and passion to build up the trust such a collaboration requires. The individuals running the informational game website would have to be people of the highest caliber. Individuals like Perculia don't grow on trees.
Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 03-20-2021 at 01:40 PM.
I've mostly abandoned the aforementioned website for fishing purposes and instead rely on the fisher's discord and the Carbuncleplushy fishing tracker (Which lists basically everything you'd need to know about every fish including availability windows) for my fishing needs.
The sheer amount of ads they've been running lately has made it rather slow to utilize.
Last edited by KageTokage; 03-20-2021 at 01:44 PM.
I remember when Thottbot and Allakhazam were revered when Everquest was the only PvE MMO, both of which I think were rolled into Wowhead later.
My guess is that youtubers are to "blame". Blame in quotes, because I generally find their information more useful.
But I also like gamerescape.com and https://ffxivcrafting.com/ aka "Crafting as a Service", which reminds me that I should pay "Crafting as a Service", since they are ad free.
You get what you pay for, either by ads or direct payment.
Apparently, no one has considered it profitable to make an Allakhazam/Wowhead for FF14.
Edited Note: Ironically, "Crafting as a Service" is not available at the moment. I hope it's not because they've decided it's not profitable without ads.
Last edited by Tommara; 03-20-2021 at 06:35 PM.
Crafting as a Service is alive for me at https://ffxivcrafting.com/
Edit: There is a comment that his web host had some issues yesterday that got resolved.
The primary reason there's not an FFXIV version of Wowhead is because of Discord, which didn't exist for most of WoW's lifetime.
The other reason why sites like Thotbott, Elitist Jerks, Icy Veins and Wowhead exist or existed was because WoW classes used to have a lot of diversity and a variety of builds for players to customize specifically for any given content or activity. There were farming builds, PvP builds, battleground builds, arena builds, PvE solo builds, PvE raiding builds, PvE dungeon builds, etc. The list went on and on. That's not the case anymore with all the classes being greatly pruned and homogenized. At least it was when I stopped playing a few years ago.
FFXIV by contrast doesn't really have builds. There's materia but that's different than leveling up and having to decide where you're going to spend a talent or skill point. And personally, I prefer FFXIV's way. It's more straightforward and cuts to the chase, because in reality, all those WoW builds I mentioned earlier would always come down to a cookie-cutter build that everyone was expected to have. In this game, you have the three major roles, and jobs to fill those roles. Period.
As far as other non-combat stuff, like where to find certain things, how to get certain titles or achievements, glamour, etc. those have been mentioned by others in this thread. For me, I just google whatever it is I'm looking for and usually the first thing that comes up is Consolegameswiki/Gamerscape and they usually have the answer.
Failing that, I head to Discord.
Spelling check though - it's Garland Tools and Gamer Escape, though the search may find them regardless. I haven't tried.
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