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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I think the title is referencing that we're about to see the end of the 7th Astral Era, and the ensuing Calamity set in motion by Fandango and Zenos is starting the 8th Umbral Era, which will likely last until the end of the 6.0 story, which will then kickstart the 8th Astral Era.
    That only works though if it's being set up to connect with a Rejoining of another Shard, which this does not appear to be (Fandaniel seems to have no interest or ambition in the Unsundered Ascians' plans to bring back daddy Zodiark by Rejoinings and just wants to be a Kefka-level nhilist, and even the dialogue in the EW teaser doesn't even use the 'Calamity' phrasing at all - it's the "End of Days", the "Coming of the End"). It's clear this isn't going to be a Calamity where a Shard is rejoined, no, this is going to be the Destruction of everything, the End of Days, the fraying of the Star, a restart of the Terminus.).

    Arguably though the smallfolk on Hydaelyn would certainly see it like a Calamity and the 'end' of the current Astral Era, but mechanically it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I think the title is referencing that we're about to see the end of the 7th Astral Era, and the ensuing Calamity set in motion by Fandango and Zenos is starting the 8th Umbral Era, which will likely last until the end of the 6.0 story, which will then kickstart the 8th Astral Era.
    I'm expecting something like this. Whatever the exact meaning, and whether it counts as a calamity or not, the title says death to dawn itself, not to a person.

    Also, given that 4.5 was literally called a "requiem" and nobody ended up dying, I'm not fretting over any deaths until they happen.

    (They probably should have let the Exarch actually die, even if we still woke up young G'raha afterwards and passed on his memories without the soul attached. Same practical result, less "always an excuse to not kill people off".)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Fourth*

    > Cut in half almost by Zenos >
    Oh right! I deleted it from my memory like the most of Ala Mhigo story...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    (They probably should have let the Exarch actually die, even if we still woke up young G'raha afterwards and passed on his memories without the soul attached. Same practical result, less "always an excuse to not kill people off".)
    If they do anything with G'raha, I expect it to be him replacing Hydaelyn/Zodiark as the new crystal serving as the source of balance to the Source and its shards. Since he literally was part of the Crystal Tower for so long, he'd have enough knowledge and experience with it for him to pull it off. All he'd really need is to be 14/14 before he started to guarantee best results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    But G'raha did not have fake deaths, at least in my pov. On the other hand for Y'shtola there could be "third time's a charm".
    Since Y'shtola is a Miqote, she probably has to die 5 more times in order to be gone for good (since cats are believed to have 7 lives)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    That only works though if it's being set up to connect with a Rejoining of another Shard, which this does not appear to be (Fandaniel seems to have no interest or ambition in the Unsundered Ascians' plans to bring back daddy Zodiark by Rejoinings and just wants to be a Kefka-level nhilist, and even the dialogue in the EW teaser doesn't even use the 'Calamity' phrasing at all - it's the "End of Days", the "Coming of the End"). It's clear this isn't going to be a Calamity where a Shard is rejoined, no, this is going to be the Destruction of everything, the End of Days, the fraying of the Star, a restart of the Terminus.).

    Arguably though the smallfolk on Hydaelyn would certainly see it like a Calamity and the 'end' of the current Astral Era, but mechanically it is not.
    This isn't true at all. Fandaniel has promised Zenos access to Zodiark (5.2) when they first meet. Zodiark can only come back and cause the end of days when the shards are rejoined (ARR plot point).

    So it stands to reason Fandaniel is planning the calamity of calamities. Calling it "end of days" or "coming of the end" all implies it will be a huge step up in terms of consequences, not a plan B to the calamity cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhra View Post
    Since Y'shtola is a Miqote, she probably has to die 5 more times in order to be gone for good (since cats are believed to have 7 lives)
    Cats have 9 lives, so she has 6 more near misses before the 7th one death sticks.

    Although, I don't think this will come to pass, as I believe Y'shtola, Thancred, and Urianger are very likely to retire after 6.0 and become NPCs in Eoreza to make room for new characters in season 2 of FFXIV.
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    Last edited by Kesey; 03-20-2021 at 07:53 AM.

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    Okay, so beyond the picture we have:

    New Alliance Raid - YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse

    We had the teaser leadup this patch and an idea or two of what could go wrong, but I don't see enough to speculate.

    New Dungeon - Paglth'an

    Anybody have any luck matching this against rootwords and other languages? I want to guess this has something to do with the towers. ... what I can find has nothing to do with the towers, it's apparently the amalj'aa home land to the east of thanalan. There IS a tower out that way, but it seems like we're trying to save the homeland, rather then fighting a tower, as of yet. We've apparently not been able to get close to it since 1.0, and with the changes in the world ... everything even rumored then, will be but speculation.

    New Trial - The Cloud Deck

    Diamond weapon and the cloud deck? So diamond is going to be flight mode?

    New Save the Queen Battlefield - Zadnor

    Has Zadnor turned up in the lore before? Do you folks expect this to be just a dungeon, or an entire new map? Battlefield feels like an additional map to me.
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    Paglth'an is the region directly to the south-east of Thanalan which is pretty much deep amalj'aa territory (dialogue in 1.0 stated the amal'jaa stronghold Zaha'rak and the Bowl of Embers was actually in Paglth'an not Thanalan, but I think that was since retconned), so I presume it has something to do with the amal'jaa (fitting, given the amalj'aa were the first to summon a Primal and their race is now pretty much entirelly tempered by said Primal save for a small group of rebels who made up the Brotherhood of Ash. It might involve trying to cure said amalj'aa of their tempering).

    As for Diamond Weapon, I wonder if that will end by having a hole blasted through it by a giant cannon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Paglthan is the Amaljaa territory east of Thanalan / south of the Shroud. There is a tower in Southern Thanalan and iirc the MSQ mentioned Uldah sending troops/scouts there to investigate so it probably has to do with that, on top of being a "regional sneak peak" like Xelphatol was for the Ixali territories.
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    "8000 malms to Eorzea we've come, 'cross both a Continent and an Ocean (and we did it in one-fifth of a second)"

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