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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    So, can we just ban damage meters already.

    At least in low level story dungeons. It's getting old.

    I've been doing the main story as a healer, to avoid queue's, and I can think of at least 5 times off the top of my head where 1 DPS started harassing a sprout DPS over the dumb meter. These are like 40's normal story dungeons; never had any issues clearing them. It's stupid, and I actually want to defend the newbie, but I play on PS4 so it's almost impossible to actually converse in chat AND do your job. I usually just give the new player a commendation at the end, since it might make them feel better about it.

    Of course, since I'm a diva, the last straw before I came here to whine on the forums about it was when it happened to me. I decided to queue as a Samurai for my first run of a story dungeon, and at the first boss I died to a mechanic. Unfortunate, but hey, that's why everyone gets a bonus for running with my newbie ass. Of course after the fight, right on queue, the other DPS goes off when his meter tells him I did less DPS than the healer; apparently he was so focused on the meter he didn't realize I died. Actually explaining it to him in chat wasn't an option (again, PS4), so I basically got to listen to crap about how I must've bought my character right up until the next boss, where my damage was fine; which eventually shut him up.

    Anyways, garbage communities and things like damage meters just don't mix well. I understand them for personal use and progression stuff, but any mention of your dumb little meters in a random MSQ dungeon should be bannable.
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    It is bannable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machi_Machiavelli View Post
    It is bannable.
    This. /end thread.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    NekoNova's Avatar
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    At least in low level story dungeons. It's getting old.

    I've been doing the main story as a healer, to avoid queue's, and I can think of at least 5 times off the top of my head where 1 DPS started harassing a sprout DPS over the dumb meter. These are like 40's normal story dungeons; never had any issues clearing them. It's stupid, and I actually want to defend the newbie, but I play on PS4 so it's almost impossible to actually converse in chat AND do your job. I usually just give the new player a commendation at the end, since it might make them feel better about it.

    Of course, since I'm a diva, the last straw before I came here to whine on the forums about it was when it happened to me. I decided to queue as a Samurai for my first run of a story dungeon, and at the first boss I died to a mechanic. Unfortunate, but hey, that's why everyone gets a bonus for running with my newbie ass. Of course after the fight, right on queue, the other DPS goes off when his meter tells him I did less DPS than the healer; apparently he was so focused on the meter he didn't realize I died. Actually explaining it to him in chat wasn't an option (again, PS4), so I basically got to listen to crap about how I must've bought my character right up until the next boss, where my damage was fine; which eventually shut him up.

    Anyways, garbage communities and things like damage meters just don't mix well. I understand them for personal use and progression stuff, but any mention of your dumb little meters in a random MSQ dungeon should be bannable.

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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machi_Machiavelli View Post
    It is bannable.
    lol, fair enough. I honestly didn't think reporting them would do anything.

    Is it bannable if they don't actually post the parse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Anyways, garbage communities and things like damage meters just don't mix well. I understand them for personal use and progression stuff, but any mention of your dumb little meters in a random MSQ dungeon should be bannable.
    It is, just report.
    Or is your story exaggerated and he didn´t mention a dmg meter?
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    lol, fair enough. I honestly didn't think reporting them would do anything.

    Is it bannable if they don't actually post the parse?
    Mentioning it
    Mentioning that someone's damange is lower then someone
    Pasting numbers


    It's enough to get a GM's attention it.
    Running a meter is tolerated as long as it's used for yourself only and not against someone ingame.
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphael View Post
    It is, just report.
    Or is your story exaggerated and he didn´t mention a dmg meter?
    They don't specifically mention a damage meter; they go after people based on information you'd need a damage meter to know.
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    What exactly are you asking for? The people in question were already breaking the rules and could have been reported. This is like when people clamor for more gun laws after each shooting when the laws to prevent it were actually already in place.
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    Harassment is already reportable, parser or not.


    That said, I have personally witnessed harassment on 'low DPS' where the person doing the harassment was actually doing much worse. So the people behaving like this may not even be parsing, but simply spouting nonsense.
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