Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
That's the deal we all signed up for when doing savage. I just think that having more tools that actively assist in learning mechanics would be beneficial and avoid encouraging the elitism that kind of plagued WoW. DPS meters do have a place, but it's actually kind of narrow in the grand scheme of things. You still have to hit Enrage first or at least get that far before really gauging peoples performance. People aren't going to waste strength tinctures on mechanics during learning, and for DPS I would bonk them on the head if they are trying to max deeps when learning a fight. Learn the damn fight, then max deeps. You can't max deeps if you don't even know where to stand yet given how complicated the damage rotations are on a lot of the jobs.
Progging and clearing are different tbh

Like if someone join an intermediate relativity prog but does SB numbers that prevents their party from even clearing the door boss? They are not putting in the work expected for harder content and it's not toxic to remove them from the party based on that

Or if enrage is consistently being met with lots of percent left and there is someone obviously consistently underperforming, it's alright for people putting in the work to not want to play with them