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    Remember when aggro was a group effort? Goo

    Miss the old days.
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    SenorPatty's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Remember when aggro was a group effort? Goo

    Miss the old days.
    I miss it and at the same time, I don't.

    I miss it cause obviously, you had to be alert. You couldn't really netflix and tank/dps/heal like today. I liked to personally push myself in tanking by assessing the correct times to switch stances. it was fun.

    What i I didn't miss were the holier-than-thou dps who refused to use lucid/quelling. Raise your hand if you've heard "I don't have to use (insert enmity dumper/staller skill here), you're the tank, you're supposed to stay in tank stance", thus never really giving you the opportunity to make use of your dps stance or as those type of people like to call it "it's only there for when you're off-tanking".

    From my perception, aggro group effort was 50-50 in terms of success. You obviously had the people who knew how the game worked. This didn't even need elaborate maths or being a hardcore raider. You were just simply someone, who in the course of the game, noticed the game's flow, the game's damage, the game's ai and enivironment long enough to see what was actually needed to be done vs what you or other people wanted to do. The more observant you got, the more efficient you got. Unfortunately, some people played just as long as you and never managed to properly observe anything. They'd run the latest expert back in the day a hundred times and still would stick to their "safe" guns and refuse to go beyond role lanes. That's why they gave the group aggro effort grief and that's why I, by an extremely small margin, am glad--no, okay-- with the new aggro system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I miss it and at the same time, I don't.

    I miss it cause obviously, you had to be alert. You couldn't really netflix and tank/dps/heal like today. I liked to personally push myself in tanking by assessing the correct times to switch stances. it was fun.

    What i I didn't miss were the holier-than-thou dps who refused to use lucid/quelling. Raise your hand if you've heard "I don't have to use (insert enmity dumper/staller skill here), you're the tank, you're supposed to stay in tank stance", thus never really giving you the opportunity to make use of your dps stance or as those type of people like to call it "it's only there for when you're off-tanking".

    From my perception, aggro group effort was 50-50 in terms of success. You obviously had the people who knew how the game worked. This didn't even need elaborate maths or being a hardcore raider. You were just simply someone, who in the course of the game, noticed the game's flow, the game's damage, the game's ai and enivironment long enough to see what was actually needed to be done vs what you or other people wanted to do. The more observant you got, the more efficient you got. Unfortunately, some people played just as long as you and never managed to properly observe anything. They'd run the latest expert back in the day a hundred times and still would stick to their "safe" guns and refuse to go beyond role lanes. That's why they gave the group aggro effort grief and that's why I, by an extremely small margin, am glad--no, okay-- with the new aggro system.
    Oh yeah those type of people were annoying. Hur dur just do another eminity combo. Kind of how I felt about cleric stance I get for the overall community it was a net positive to remove and I know from a gameplay perspective it was clunky but I did love that risk reward feeling and the satisfaction when people noticed how long you were in cleric stance yet no deaths happened. Had the same feeling with stances in general it was nice to have that quantifiable distinction that you are progressing as a tank or healer without just looking at clear times and logs.
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    A Botanist could tank Sastasha.
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    Boo hoo you've had 1 bad run as a Tank..
    Grow up..
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    I miss cleric stance too. It was harder for sake of being harder but it was also super satisfying to master.
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