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    Just put on tank stance, use your AOE moves, and go at your own pace (just make it a reasonable pace).

    If they're smart, the non-tank impatient puller will pull to you (or rescue you if healer) and make your life easier unless those enemies just happen to drop lots of ground AOEs.

    If they're not smart, well, they can wait for you to get there and, in the meantime, feel like a hero fighting solo.

    If you do wipe, then just say to slow down as people are usually willing to do that after a wipe.
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    Just keep them busy with big pulls. Problem solved.
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    Are you correlating dps queue times to the few dps who go power crazy ?
    Because it's simply not true. dps will always outnumber tanks because dps naturally lack responsibility/leadership and therefore generally identified as more fun.

    As a dps and as a tank and as a healer (I main one of each), I want everything to be pulled. Pull it all and watch them all fall. Now, it depends on the role I'm playing if I have to adjust my playstyle to the group i.e. as a SCH I may not have the ability to do certain pulls. Or as a tank I have to consider if my group has the dps to pull wall to wall alongside my healer who has the ability to maintain.

    I notice that some people have issues with control as well in public groups. Just because you are a tank doesn't mean you dominate everyone and everything. It simply means you take aggro. It doesn't mean you are leader and how dare anyone attempt to take your lead. As long as the group isn't imploding, do what your role demands of you, not what you demand of your team.
    It sounds like you have a boring playstyle tbh. Maybe it's in your best interest to stay a dps/support.
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    Last edited by VirusOnline; 03-18-2021 at 03:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    I notice that some people have issues with control as well in public groups. Just because you are a tank doesn't mean you dominate everyone and everything. It simply means you take aggro. It doesn't mean you are leader and how dare anyone attempt to take your lead.
    I take issue with that statement. Why? Because I make the judgement call. I can just let any DPS die if their behaviour is not appropriate. I chose tank because I want to dominate, otherwise if damage was the most important aspect of the game I'd pick DPS. By taking the lead off the tank you are basically a tank yourself, but don't play a tank when you could. I see this as a symptom of a remaining system taken off the game that used to give Tanks plenty of managing rights. My biggest issue is not putting my ego before anyone but some DPS running infront of me thinking I wasn't about to pull every mob anyway. It goes both ways really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    I chose tank because I want to dominate
    You chose tank for the wrong reason then. Unless you mean dominating your enemies, which I don't think is entirely the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    You chose tank for the wrong reason then. Unless you mean dominating your enemies, which I don't think is entirely the case.
    Way to go. Funny thing is I pull every enemy I see in the dungeon but yeah, seeing a greedy DPS die is definitely up the list of things I enjoy seeing in this game for all the wrong reasons. Everything else in this game doesn't really bother me. Also a tank is dominating in nature since pulling enemies and staying at the top of aggro if your goal, except the game has thrown that out in favour of casual play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    Way to go. Funny thing is I pull every enemy I see in the dungeon but yeah, seeing a greedy DPS die is definitely up the list of things I enjoy seeing in this game for all the wrong reasons. Everything else in this game doesn't really bother me.
    Well, at least you're self aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    I take issue with that statement. Why? Because I make the judgement call. I can just let any DPS die if their behaviour is not appropriate. I chose tank because I want to dominate, otherwise if damage was the most important aspect of the game I'd pick DPS. By taking the lead off the tank you are basically a tank yourself, but don't play a tank when you could. I see this as a symptom of a remaining system taken off the game that used to give Tanks plenty of managing rights. My biggest issue is not putting my ego before anyone but some DPS running infront of me thinking I wasn't about to pull every mob anyway. It goes both ways really.
    In a roulette, really ? Does it hurt your feelings when an underling snatches that punk squid in sastasha ?
    Come talk to me when you're my raid leader.

    Omgod I can't, are we talking about tank managing rights ? I am dying lol. Baby Zodiark help me because if I could summon my chocobo in a roulette I would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    In a roulette, really ? Does it hurt your feelings when an underling snatches that punk squid in sastasha ?
    Come talk to me when you're my raid leader.

    Omgod I can't, are we talking about tank managing rights ? I am dying lol. Baby Zodiark help me because if I could summon my chocobo in a roulette I would.
    Yeah, I don't think they realize just how big of a fool they made of themselves. I really don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    Typical passive-aggressive response coming from someone that has little to no consideration for new players that might struggle with tanking. I made my case, but I'm going to argue in favour of why a DPS shouldn't pull wall to wall.

    Imagine this: A tank has run out of CD's to use and the healer isn't the most skilled person in the world. What could go wrong? DPS pulls more enemies and everyone wipes. You go back to the starting point having wasted my time and yours. Imagine ending up having Aurum Vale which is a very difficult dungeon for example. A DPS pulls the first room everyone dies. Even a tank has to be mindful in here. You could potentially wipe more than once and run the risk of disbanding because a DPS puts their greed above working in a team. Another thing that could happen is you have a tank with an anxiety problem (tanxiety), you completly disregard them by letting a DPS pull the whole dungeon. In your world every dungeon run might be successful, but I've been playing for a long time and I've witnessed various cases of these events happening.

    Now of course, none of this might happen. Regardless of what your opinion is or mine, I believe there's instances where this whole act might go wrong. If you play in a group or setting of people you personally know that's totally fine but there's people that don't share your view and by enforcing your view on them, you are essentially doing which you accuse others of: Dominating.
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