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    My first experience at tanking

    No one died. But there was this ranged dps toon who apparently thought that killing everything was a good idea, while I thought that just completing the dungeon objectives was a better idea.

    The dps toon started crowing about "Yay, I'm tanking!" Apparently, it didn't occur to him that was only because the healer and I would bail him out. This was just Sastasha, btw, with at least one member who was watching cutscenes, so I was fine waiting for them before engaging.

    I know I'm preaching to the choir (Edited Note: People who do that probably don't read these forums). That's why I've never tanked before in a public group in FF14, and will never do so again. I accomplished my objective - get my baby tank to a high enough level to do Squadron missions.

    Enjoy your long queue times, dps who do that. I know most of you do not behave that way, but we all suffer because of few who do.
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    Last edited by Tommara; 03-17-2021 at 03:18 PM.

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    It sounds like you had an impatient dps who kept pulling? Yeah, that's unfortunate (and annoying!) but you are going to have a rough time later on if you can't handle that just one time. Squadron missions only go up to 60, so...and you can't pick and choose. There's a select few. So...good luck. An impatient dps is actually one of the better scenarios in the DF. I realize that probably doesn't make you feel any better, but I'm under the impression that you might not be cut out for tanking because you don't seem to have the patience. There's nothing wrong with that, but it might be best to step away from the role to avoid further frustration. It requires a certain mindset that you may or may not have. There's impatient tanks too, but in my opinion a good tank deals with whatever gets thrown their way, even if it's not always pleasant.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 03-17-2021 at 03:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It sounds like you had an impatient dps who kept pulling? Yeah, that's unfortunate (and annoying!) but you are going to have a rough time later on if you can't handle that just one time. Squadron missions only go up to 60, so...and you can't pick and choose. There's a select few. So...good luck. An impatient dps is actually one of the better scenarios in the DF. I realize that probably doesn't make you feel any better, but I'm under the impression that you might not be cut out for tanking because you don't seem to have the patience. There's nothing wrong with that, but it might be best to step away from the role to avoid further frustration.
    I have no desire at all to tank. Just trying to use up gear I've stockpiled.

    Just a public service announcement for dps frustrated with long queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    I have no desire at all to tank. Just trying to use up gear I've stockpiled.

    Just a public service announcement for dps frustrated with long queues.
    Fair enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Fair enough.
    Forgot to say that yes, you're right. Impatient dps who kept pulling and pulling stuff that didn't need to be pulled (I might have been ok if he had only pulled stuff that needed to be pulled). I also forgot to say that I respect your job a lot. I don't want to do it, but non-tanks (and non-healers) need to remember why we chose not to do them, and so do what we can to make it easier for you, not harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It sounds like you had an impatient dps who kept pulling? Yeah, that's unfortunate (and annoying!) but you are going to have a rough time later on if you can't handle that just one time. Squadron missions only go up to 60, so...and you can't pick and choose.
    Mobs fates and Leves to 20 -> Squadron or PotD to 61 -> HoH to 71 -> Trusts or Bozja to 80.

    That's the route I went on my tank and it went fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I realize that probably doesn't make you feel any better, but I'm under the impression that you might not be cut out for tanking because you don't seem to have the patience. There's nothing wrong with that, but it might be best to step away from the role to avoid further frustration. It requires a certain mindset that you may or may not have.
    Not really. I have my lv80 tank and while I don't play it much this expansion I used to main one in StB and I'd be comfy enough picking it up for endgame trials and raids. But I'd never, ever pug a dungeon with it. Ever.
    The idea that tanks "need a thick skin" and must endure dps in dungeons behaving like children is false, no one pays to play a game to suffer. You can simply opt out of DF and still enjoy all other aspects of tank in better content in organized groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Mobs fates and Leves to 20 -> Squadron or PotD to 61 -> HoH to 71 -> Trusts or Bozja to 80.

    That's the route I went on my tank and it went fine.



    Not really. I have my lv80 tank and while I don't play it much this expansion I used to main one in StB and I'd be comfy enough picking it up for endgame trials and raids. But I'd never, ever pug a dungeon with it. Ever.
    The idea that tanks "need a thick skin" and must endure dps in dungeons behaving like children is false, no one pays to play a game to suffer. You can simply opt out of DF and still enjoy all other aspects of tank in better content in organized groups.
    Never understood people saying tanks need a thick skin. I had major anxiety issues growing up, yet have always played tank classes in mmos.

    I mained PLD until storm blood, and again at the start of shadowbringers.

    Its not hard to tank. And people don't say a word 90% of the time in instances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    No one died. But there was this ranged dps toon who apparently thought that killing everything was a good idea, while I thought that just completing the dungeon objectives was a better idea.

    The dps toon started crowing about "Yay, I'm tanking!" Apparently, it didn't occur to him that was only because the healer and I would bail him out. This was just Sastasha, btw, with at least one member who was watching cutscenes, so I was fine waiting for them before engaging.

    I know I'm preaching to the choir (Edited Note: People who do that probably don't read these forums). That's why I've never tanked before in a public group in FF14, and will never do so again. I accomplished my objective - get my baby tank to a high enough level to do Squadron missions.

    Enjoy your long queue times, dps who do that. I know most of you do not behave that way, but we all suffer because of few who do.
    To be fair, in the current state of the game, most of the time it doesn't matter inside dungeons who is tanking because at least 90% of all Dungeons can easily be cleared without even requiring a tank, tanks to Bosses being overall too weak and as you probably withnessed yourself, as long as the dps doesnt pull everything at once, youre good.

    It might be more taxing on the Healers end if things turn out that way, but it really is no big deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anhra View Post
    To be fair, in the current state of the game, most of the time it doesn't matter inside dungeons who is tanking because at least 90% of all Dungeons can easily be cleared without even requiring a tank, tanks to Bosses being overall too weak and as you probably withnessed yourself, as long as the dps doesnt pull everything at once, youre good.

    It might be more taxing on the Healers end if things turn out that way, but it really is no big deal.
    The long queues for dps are a big deal.

    Edited Note: Even so, I'd rather dps, instead of having to deal with bad dps players as a tank or healer. I'm more of a healer at heart, but not in public groups anymore.
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    Last edited by Tommara; 03-17-2021 at 04:22 PM.

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