Savage raiding still needs work

[Liam_Harper]

Damage snapshotting as the cast bar ends is fine for me, but the animations badly need work. I don't see why animation can't happen as the damage is about to occur, rather than a second or two after. It really only serves to bait players in some cases, such as people claiming Suzaku EX's colour phase was bugged or laggy when in fact they were simply reacting by the animations and would have been fine by walking into the explosion from the previous tile. Or many players on EMEX Full ranks moving too late, because they're trying to watch for a safe spot between the line of gunship fire instead of simply walking into it while dodging the soldiers. You constantly see new players dodging a mechanic as the cast bar ends, then waiting for the big swing or explosion animation to finish before moving back to melee range. It's just habit.

Another thing I'd appreciate is better responsiveness on things like tank CD's. It's tedious to use Vengeance or Shake it off while the cast bar is at 80% and the boss mechanic simply ignores it. There are other games where you could react at the last 1% of the bar and it would register. If there was some way to work that to check for mitigation better, it would be a rather nice QoL change.

[ItMe]

Another thing I'd appreciate is better responsiveness on things like tank CD's. It's tedious to use Vengeance or Shake it off while the cast bar is at 80% and the boss mechanic simply ignores it. There are other games where you could react at the last 1% of the bar and it would register. If there was some way to work that to check for mitigation better, it would be a rather nice QoL change.

Depends on the length of the animation for the move.
So there is a reason for it, but unless they make the mitigation happen separate from the animation it's just something tanks gotta note and get used to.
Could be a cool QoL though. I agree there.

You could always enlarge them and place them in a spot of prominence on the UI. That's what I did and I've had no issues since.

Same.
Changed my life.

[Dzian]

It really only serves to bait players in some cases, such as people claiming Suzaku EX's colour phase was bugged or laggy when in fact they were simply reacting by the animations and would have been fine by walking into the explosion from the previous tile. Or many players on EMEX Full ranks moving too late, because they're trying to watch for a safe spot between the line of gunship fire instead of simply walking into it while dodging the soldiers. You constantly see new players dodging a mechanic as the cast bar ends, then waiting for the big swing or explosion animation to finish before moving back to melee range. It's just habit..

this is why the combat feels so disconnected because what you see and whats actually happening are in many cases miles apart from each other. it's why most bosses ultimately feel lifeless because of how unsynced they are. when you can literally stand in the stupid and it misses you completely. or be total oppiste edge of the arena and still get smashed.

given how mechanics are often preloaded before the boss even casts them which is often how things like act callouts and stuff work it really shouldnt be that difficult to sync up an animation with a cast bar. and have both trigger when that magic packet is received.

the cast bar is basically just another animation anyway. receives a packet of data. dispalys cast bar. so is often just as prone to latency issues as the actual animation effect itself. stands to reason then than if you can sync 4 8 24 peoples cast bars. syncing there animations should be just as easy. even if meant clipping the previous animaton the boss was doing. which again is a frequent occurance from a palyer perspective with how gcds clip ogcd animations

just breaks the atmosphere and enjoyment of fights when what your seeing is not whats happening. when the floor beneath your feet can blow up and nothing happens. sometimes think this is part of why many people have just become lazy. because of the amount of times they feel cheated by mechanincs. why dodge stupid when its just going to hit them anyway even if they're a mile away...

then they see players stand in the stupid and nothing happens to them. well faaaaaaawwwwwwwwk.... Honestly i think thats one of the most annoying things for players trying to see how a mechanic works. because what they see is total BS and makes no sense.

[Nethereal]

this is why the combat feels so disconnected because what you see and whats actually happening are in many cases miles apart from each other. it's why most bosses ultimately feel lifeless because of how unsynced they are. when you can literally stand in the stupid and it misses you completely. or be total oppiste edge of the arena and still get smashed.

given how mechanics are often preloaded before the boss even casts them which is often how things like act callouts and stuff work it really shouldnt be that difficult to sync up an animation with a cast bar. and have both trigger when that magic packet is received.

the cast bar is basically just another animation anyway. receives a packet of data. dispalys cast bar. so is often just as prone to latency issues as the actual animation effect itself. stands to reason then than if you can sync 4 8 24 peoples cast bars. syncing there animations should be just as easy. even if meant clipping the previous animaton the boss was doing. which again is a frequent occurance from a palyer perspective with how gcds clip ogcd animations

just breaks the atmosphere and enjoyment of fights when what your seeing is not whats happening. when the floor beneath your feet can blow up and nothing happens. sometimes think this is part of why many people have just become lazy. because of the amount of times they feel cheated by mechanincs. why dodge stupid when its just going to hit them anyway even if they're a mile away...

then they see players stand in the stupid and nothing happens to them. well faaaaaaawwwwwwwwk.... Honestly i think thats one of the most annoying things for players trying to see how a mechanic works. because what they see is total BS and makes no sense.

Eh it's pretty simple, stand outside of stupid a few times, figure out the timing, be able to move into stupid without taking damage.
The real reason combat feels so lifeless is because ffxiv isn't action combat oriented, it's like a step above turn based.

For a game that's centered around casuals I've never played a game with more hard enrages than this one.

[Roda]

Yeah no they're right tho.
Why the hell do we have to fight the UI when the artists put so much work into the models and animations.
Like e10 was good with that kind of thing. E11 was kinda iffy since it's just the particle effects giving you info, and you have to determine what those particle effects are actually doing by reading the castbar and memorizing the fight.

I'm having a blast in DR savage with all of the interesting tells the bosses give, and while the arenas are still just squares and circles, they still do interesting things with them.
I really hope they bring some of that design philosophy to more mainstream content and refine it. (more stage interactions pls!)

[GrimGale]

I've been playing this game since launch. It took a while to get used to the delayed animations, much more so back in 2.0 when the netcode had not been updated.

(Landslides everywhere.)

I understand your frustration, visual cues and feedback are extremely important for smooth, reaction based gameplay. Watching your character run out of the explosion only to get hit five meters away because your were still in the AoE when it resolved feels extremely jarring. You feel like the game is cheating you when the visual feedback doesn't represent the reality of the situation acurately.

Unfortunately this isn't going away anytime soon. The system has been established, and apparently it can't be changed due to the code of the game.

The only solution is to adapt to it, or simply not play.

[DrWho2010]

Netcode would have to be improved for one, and latency/ping would become way more of an issue if you wanted to do this.

[MPK]

pvp would actually be good if the netcode was fixed

[Kaurhz]

Only when they stop adding in encounters that are unfriendly to those that suffer from colorblindness.

[Duskane]

I really don't think cast bars are the problem with savage
also some fights like weapon refrain ultimate has physical tells so maybe do those and see how you feel.