ACTION RPG aproaching

[Fionlagh]

Im probally in the minority here, but i prefer a slower, tactical style of combat, over a twitch based combat.
i want to be able to eyeball not only what im doing but what my comrades are doing. i most definately dont want to stare and click at my UI or have to install add ons that basically put me on auto-pilot. ive watched friends play faster paced mmo's, some look like arcade style fighting, all i see is pew pew pew ... pew pew pew... i dunno.. i just remember my favorite fights being the ones were i saw the tide turn, or just a cool move being pulled off by a team mate. just sayin,, there is such a thing as too fast.. isnt there?

[Digirotta]

I really liked how in XI all classes had their "spots" or "locations". Thieves went back and forth, pld just straight tanked and mages kept their distance. Apart from occasional knockbacks i don't recall there being much movement, though. Now we're taking a livelier direction gameplay-wise with combo directions, which i totally forgot when i was writing my last post. Not to mention Iffy has nice, directed attacks and Moggle is some wild, fun kiting madness. But by how far can SE go with the current mechanism?

Now, i'm not fluent in Korean, and i really don't know much about TERA (apart from what Youtube and a few fanforums has to offer), but when i see some good action, i'm all for it. So here's me taking a potshot at a MMO that's just around the corner for western release: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XkibMimRU4

Look at that battle mechanic. Basically, you have your simplified skillbar and the tank does her main attacks by holding down mouse1, and blocks by holding down mouse2. Look at it! Holy Seiryu! Now that's some straight-forward, simplified tanking. And look, the knockback isn't just a random bump. The boss's skill either pushes you backward, or runs over you.

Surely you can see lots of anilocking during the video, but at least the blocking is more relevant to player's own reactions, and you actually aim your own hits, rather than let some unexplainably horrid and unbalanced algorithm do all the dirty work for you. And hey, the boss is not one-shotting you!

That's.... That has to be what grinds my gears the most. No matter how well buffed my tank is, no matter how much dualmelds and HQ gears i have equipped, i still get one-shotted by a frickin' midboss in AV! Sometimes it's because my own judgement error, or a stupid risk and sometimes it's just FFXIV and it's just the all lovely UI-lag-anilocking-whatever.

How far can SE stretch his "one shot at the battle revamp?"

[Tezz_Xivectro]

Im probally in the minority here, but i prefer a slower, tactical style of combat, over a twitch based combat.
i want to be able to eyeball not only what im doing but what my comrades are doing. i most definately dont want to stare and click at my UI or have to install add ons that basically put me on auto-pilot. ive watched friends play faster paced mmo's, some look like arcade style fighting, all i see is pew pew pew ... pew pew pew... i dunno.. i just remember my favorite fights being the ones were i saw the tide turn, or just a cool move being pulled off by a team mate. just sayin,, there is such a thing as too fast.. isnt there?

In an MMO setting, i agree.
But with everything (music for example) there will continue to be fusion among fusion of genre's & sub-genres.

As long as it remains fun at the end of the day, i can handle sacrificing a few things in my comfort zone.
FF14 feels like a good mix between FF11 & Most other MMO's in terms of combat speed.


EDIT: I'm also fed up with the cheap 1-shotting aspects FF14 keeps presenting as well. I hope they rework stats again come 2.0.

[Wirritosama]

Where's the dislike button?

[Alise]

This is so far from action-RPG.

For action RPG, it should be something like this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiEmnI4wjcg

[Digirotta]

For action RPG, it should be something like this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiEmnI4wjcg

I think i just creamed a bit ._.

Seriously, that's... wow. Amazing.

[indira]

i dont think terra will be a threat being a korean mmo = grind & gear dependant like crazy.

Positional conditions for combos is action based... as is dodging attacks...
I do agree with digirotta, we can't really even consider more action mechanics until the lag is in check post 2.0

alot of lag in this game is people hardrive reading too slow, i have zero lag with a ssd. but 2.0 should run hell of alot faster if its gonna work on a ps3.

[Exn]

I think it's too late.

They already went back to FFXI with the combat system

Wait.. how so?

[Pyretta_Blaze]

I say no, because I fail at action RPG. I'm just not good at it so if FFXIV went that route I would not play just like if they incorporated platformer type jumping puzzles as I fail at that too.

I like a slower type action in my RPG where its what ability I choose next that matters, not how fast I can choose it.

There isn't anything wrong with action RPGs but they are just not for me.

[JakeRoon]

aCTION BASED RPG AL-LA dRAGON AGE AND sKYRIM in my mmo?

yes please.....