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  1. #81
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    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.
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    Last edited by Besame; 04-18-2021 at 07:54 PM.
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  2. #82
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    ReiganCross's Avatar
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    V'ox Bolt
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.
    Y'know, I kind of like that, just limit your account to 1 FC per server. Simple, elegant, easy to implement and hard to work around without signing an entirely different account (With expansions if you want to mess with Kugane.)

    BUT, and this is very important to note, I'm the kind of person that doesn't even understand why people would need an actual legitimate Alt-Character for a game like this where you can do everything on a single character. I really wouldn't be able to personally understand why people would need to also be signed to multiple FCs. And that's more on me than it not actually making sense.

    Which means it's up to somebody else to point out if having your account locked to a single FC per server is a bad idea.
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  3. #83
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    Adrameliya's Avatar
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    Adramelia Mercedes
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    Cerberus
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    Miner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.
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  4. #84
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.


    Been suggested wont point out whats wrong with this idea.
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  5. #85
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.
    There's always going to be the handful of people that want to stick a char in their friend's FC especially since we can roll 8/server.

    How would you suggest handling that?
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  6. #86
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    Arielen's Avatar
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    Andrean Lackland
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.
    They can't actually cap 1 FC properly unless you were only allowed to join one FC per DC PERIOD. That means, your alts wouldn't be able to join a different FC than your main. Otherwise, it's loopholable: someone else makes the fc, a house is acquired, ownership is transferred over to someone that already owns a personal and is the leader of another FC that has a house.

    And all this, to prevent like 200 houses out of a couple thousand from being owned by solo FCs, most of which were likely legit at some point, but died out and transferred to someone that stuck around or came back from a break only to realize that they own a house now.

    I get that everyone in this section is salty about housing, about the drought, the lack of access, even the low price threshold to get a house in the first place, but dunking on tiny FCs or solo FCs or making the entire playerbase pay taxes for a house is ridiculous. The only way to resolve the current housing issues, is to add more housing. Everything else is just a bandaid fix that doesn't address the root cause of the issue.

    Alternatively, a few more DCs in NA and EU are required anyway. That would help alleviate a lot of housing problems, and compensate for a playerbase that is likely to grow come the new expansion.
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    Last edited by Arielen; 04-19-2021 at 04:06 AM.

  7. #87
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    Almagnus1's Avatar
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    And all this, to prevent like 200 houses out of a couple thousand from being owned by solo FCs, most of which were likely legit at some point, but died out and transferred to someone that stuck around or came back from a break only to realize that they own a house now.
    Do you have actual data to back that up that claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    I get that everyone in this section is salty about housing, about the drought, the lack of access, even the low price threshold to get a house in the first place, but dunking on tiny FCs or solo FCs or making the entire playerbase pay taxes for a house is ridiculous.
    Pointing out a problem =/= "dunking on tiny FCs or solo FCs"

    If the FC has less than four members, IMO that FC should be disbanded. SE should also look into making FC things (like gardening and the workshop) available to players outside of housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    The only way to resolve the current housing issues, is to add more housing. Everything else is just a bandaid fix that doesn't address the root cause of the issue.
    Many have suggested adding instanced housing as a solution. Tbh, one thing won't fix it, and you will need to do many things to hope to fix the situation, and likely course correct between steps.

    Alternatively, a few more DCs in NA and EU are required anyway. That would help alleviate a lot of housing problems, and compensate for a playerbase that is likely to grow come the new expansion.[/QUOTE]
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  8. #88
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    Arielen's Avatar
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    Andrean Lackland
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    Mateus
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    Astrologian Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Do you have actual data to back that up that claim?



    Pointing out a problem =/= "dunking on tiny FCs or solo FCs"

    If the FC has less than four members, IMO that FC should be disbanded. SE should also look into making FC things (like gardening and the workshop) available to players outside of housing.



    Many have suggested adding instanced housing as a solution. Tbh, one thing won't fix it, and you will need to do many things to hope to fix the situation, and likely course correct between steps.

    Alternatively, a few more DCs in NA and EU are required anyway. That would help alleviate a lot of housing problems, and compensate for a playerbase that is likely to grow come the new expansion.
    [/QUOTE]

    Same housing stats website as usual: Oliver's. 5% of the current number of plots would put that at 200-300 plots are owned by solo fcs.
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  9. #89
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    ReiganCross's Avatar
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    V'ox Bolt
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    The only way to resolve the current housing issues, is to add more housing. Everything else is just a bandaid fix that doesn't address the root cause of the issue.
    It has also been pointed out why they can't just add either Instanced Housing and/or add more houses. They've been adding more houses, the new wards last for a whole minute before we've run out of Mediums and Larges again, maybe a couple of hours and we're out of Smalls and back into having the exact same issue. At best you can allow people to better transfer characters between servers/DCs so that people go to lower populated worlds and maybe find an actual just free house that they don't camp over, but as its stand the service is expensive af and it means someone is leaving everyone they know from the old server just because Placard Camping is shit.

    Placard Camping needs to die. And it won't die just because there are more houses. It needs to be completely eliminated without any trace it was there, the same way you cover old tennage-years photos (Because they're the same level of embarassement.)
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  10. #90
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    1 person/account, entitled to 1 FC, 1 house, 1 apt, alts can share your house/FC ez-peezy.
    Would been nice but alts cannot share apartment or houses since you are unable to add your alt to your friendslist which is a requirement to add them.
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