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  1. #131
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    more restrictions on Fc housing like they need to be in a FC for a period of time because its wayy to easy to abuse hence why i see so many wards owned by dead fcs and most wards have about 20 plots of deceased FCS of 0/2 online
    What if a legit FC being created, working hard to hit rank 4 or whatever they need to hit to purchase a land and then they can't get a house. You would punish legit people too with your suggestion.
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  2. #132
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sotaris View Post
    What if a legit FC being created, working hard to hit rank 4 or whatever they need to hit to purchase a land and then they can't get a house. You would punish legit people too with your suggestion.
    I think they mean not being able to pass on leadership to a newly joined member. Which is what is done to sell fc houses. The seller invites the buyer and instantly gives them fc leadership. Some people also use this process to pass leadership to an alt so their main can join another fc. If something like this was introduced I seriously doubt the period of being unable to be made leader would be long enough that by the time the fc reaches rank 6 they still can't purchase. Or perhaps SE would only introduce that restriction on passing leadership if the fc already has a house. We don't know because the feature literally doesn't exist. I wouldn't be opposed to a restriction like that if it was active only after the fc has a house.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 04-26-2021 at 11:01 PM.

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I wouldn't be opposed to a restriction like that if it was active only after the fc has a house.
    I think that would be fair, if we ever would get that.
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  4. #134
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I think they mean not being able to pass on leadership to a newly joined member. Which is what is done to sell fc houses. The seller invites the buyer and instantly gives them fc leadership. Some people also use this process to pass leadership to an alt so their main can join another fc. If something like this was introduced I seriously doubt the period of being unable to be made leader would be long enough that by the time the fc reaches rank 6 they still can't purchase. Or perhaps SE would only introduce that restriction on passing leadership if the fc already has a house. We don't know because the feature literally doesn't exist. I wouldn't be opposed to a restriction like that if it was active only after the fc has a house.
    I could see a leadership pass restriction to an FC member that has been with the FC at least 60 days if they have a house. If the FC has failed in that amount of time, I'd bet it's probably a fatal FC failure and it will never recover.
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  5. #135
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Been toiling over this idea its not perfect and a little more complex then I would I like.

    A House keeper rank. The rank would be smiliar to the FC LEAD, cant be removed only one person can hold it. The rank would unavaliable until you have become the leader of two or more fc's with homes that all reside on the same ------>ACCOUNT and WORLD<---. Soon as this as this happens all housing permissions: except furniture removal, relinquish, and estate settings would become locked for all Fc members. FC leader as well would lose them.

    To restore them a member would need to be promoted to housekeeper rank. This would need to happen in all FC's belonging to said account the moment a second fc house is obtained.

    Housekeeper rank would have restrictions as follows.

    -Character must be level 50+
    -Character cannot be on the FC leaders account.
    - Only one character can hold Housekeeper rank per world per account.

    Its not perfect and more complex then I would like. But it would make owning multiple FC homes a real pain in the rear.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 04-27-2021 at 03:34 PM.

  6. #136
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    Andrean Lackland
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    This is so much toiling and headscratching to find a solution for something that can only be fixed by adding more housing.
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    World might burn. Heaven might fall. Candy abides.

  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielen View Post
    This is so much toiling and headscratching to find a solution for something that can only be fixed by adding more housing.
    You forgot the /s again....

    Oh, and please kindly remove me from your sig.
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  8. #138
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    Kurotora Iga
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    It is simple, more restrictions is needed to have an FC, an activity meter or some kind of thing, if only one person not including alts logs in, that FC, would be prompted at some point for activity for an instance of the minimum required to create a FC with freequent activity from each player, and this is not including alts of the FC owner in it naturally, but by seperate accounts.

    Could easy enough be a script for that that detect if doign content or gathering or whatever.. and would be prompted with a warning, if no success doing such and then a timer would start.

    I as for one think it should have some actual active player requirements to have and hold an FC including FC house, and if can't present that, then the FC goes into sleep mode and the FC house plot will be made available or something, I can see why 1 person FC owners would be against this, but I can also see that this is a Massive Multiplayer Online Roleplaying Game MMORPG... and in such regards it should be kept, with mentioned activity such as having an FC, also known as Guild/Clan.
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  9. #139
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Another idea that will hurt FC's more then help. Start a FC and try to recruit people you will lose more people then you gain. Most wont even hang around a week before leaving for a FC that is already established and active. It would also drive recruiting fc's to send more random invites and advertise in shout to greater levels then they already do.
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  10. #140
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    Maley Oakensage
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Another idea that will hurt FC's more then help. Start a FC and try to recruit people you will lose more people then you gain. Most wont even hang around a week before leaving for a FC that is already established and active. It would also drive recruiting fc's to send more random invites and advertise in shout to greater levels then they already do.
    That's kinda the problem with the shell FCs... how do you rein those in without screwing over the legitimate FCs?
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