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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    Having all alts in a world share housing and FC like this would be a good idea. But like everyone said, cooling down workshop abuse by closing the shell FC loophole would be ideal.
    It isnt a loophole, its actually intended in the TOS, good try buddy, as per usual making a fool of yourself.

    At this point you are going to become (if you are not already) the joke of the housing forums, congratulations
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 02-27-2023 at 01:48 AM.

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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Enough with trying to take things away. Nerf subs and airships put them at the Grand Company it's not that hard. Take away the profit and it will solve most of the issues with ward ownership. This obsession with trying to take things away from people who follow the intent and the rules on here gets pretty old.
    (3)
    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 02-28-2023 at 07:49 AM.

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    Sindele Actoria
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 96
    Like most rent proposals, I don't see where this would do anything notable to the people you're trying to hit as opposed to dinging casual/low-activity/low-knowledge FCs. Getting to expert delivery from nothing with a carry is a one-time cost of about 2 hours each, and all of them will already have credit buffers from the initial rank-up. If you're running really light with low-level leads, you *might* need to add some time for leveling to 50. QVs go infinite easily and there's a wealth of cheap turn-in sources. You might create a little mild inconvenience for the really huge holders, but these are also people with near-infinite time to spend on the problem, so.. probably not.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    My free company is small is currently 7rs old. At its peak we had 2 million fc credits. Not every fc is a credit generator or desires to be one. Especially hard.to make them when only have two members out of 20 left actually playing. Done more then my share of recruiting and met with little success. I have no wish to lose my fc house cause someone badly thought out idea.
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    CatStarwind's Avatar
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    Drufel Starwind
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Man you remind me of Albangbus1. Once he got his House after his so highly sought after Lottery he went silent. So whats your story?

    Did somebody got a House you wanted?
    Or outbid you on the black market?
    Put somebody an less desirable Housing Skin into your view?
    Did somebody bought into your own ward buyouts?
    Did somebody stole your sand moulds in the kindergarten?
    Or are you just an unhappy person who cannot bear the joy of others and therefore also wants to punish them with his resentment?
    No to all. Heck, lottery didn't even exist back then. However,

    Quote Originally Posted by Yodada View Post
    Or outbid you on the black market?
    This makes it sound like RMT is a bigger problem than I initially assumed.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    This obsession with trying to take things away from people who follow the intent and the rules on here gets pretty old.
    There's no reason to take away anything from anyone who followed the rules. That's a problem for those who don't e.g. the _UNAMED group. But that risk was always inherent and known.
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Dancer Lv 80
    The house was paid the moment you paid to bid on it, and you claimed it at the placard, be it in the old placard system, or the lottery system.

    This is not a rent system, it's a buyout system, let's stop with these stupid ideas with trying to make it hard for anyone and everyone to maintain a house, thank you.

    Out of posts for the day but

    Quote Originally Posted by PaalHenrik View Post
    If FC's have to pay rent, so should personal owners.
    Agree.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 02-28-2023 at 06:46 PM.

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    PaalHenrik's Avatar
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    Sophisticated Beggar
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    Sagittarius
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    The house was paid the moment you paid to bid on it, and you claimed it at the placard, be it in the old placard system, or the lottery system.

    This is not a rent system, it's a buyout system, let's stop with these stupid ideas with trying to make it hard for anyone and everyone to maintain a house, thank you.
    If FC's have to pay rent, so should personal owners.
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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    Khara Relanah
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Enough with trying to take things away. Nerf subs and airships
    I just want to take a moment to appreciate this post. Usually hypocrisy and irony aren't one sentence right after the other.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    They can leave them in FC's but simply expand access and give those without a FC a venue to access the content by placing them in Grand Companies as well. It would give everyone access to something that pretty much only the FC leadership and a select few are allowed to profit by.



    Yes she could share with her husband but you can't add alts to a private house. It's why some of us will create a small FC to give them access to the house. It's another issue that has been festering since SE said it would be looking into it back in 4.2. It's ridiculous that after all this time this still isn't a thing especially after successfully preventing alts from buying their own personal housing with the new rules back then. Houses should have account wide access regardless of server or DC in my view for alts on the same service account.
    There are 2 types of fc leadership. Those who horde everything to themselves and those who don't want to deal with drama and fighting.
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Let's start with forcing FCs to bid in the wards reserved for them.
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