Why is the Maturity Lvl of People Playing this game so much higher than that of WoW?

[qaija]

I just completed the dungeon "The Great Gobal Library". I read up on the mechanics of it because at this level you will die too much if you do not understand them. But even spending fifteen minutes or so going over them, my unfamiliarity with it caused me to die at least three or four times during the fighting.

I wasn't booted from the four person group. I wasn't bitched at by anyone. When I returned to the start after we all wiped on the last boss, it took me about five minutes to figure out how to get back because the others were already there. No one complained. When I got back, the tank patted me on the head.

This type of behavior was almost completely absent from Wow.

When I first began playing the game, almost a month ago now, I joined an FC. Someone sent me a join request and I accepted it. I was soured from guilds in WoW having been in quite a few. There was always at least one member who was such a jerk I had difficulty tolerating him. In my FC every single member is courteous, polite, friendly, considerate, and never vulgar. I thought I had just been very lucky. But, as with all FC's I people leave and new ones are constantly being invited. Still no jerks.

I know there have to be some immature people playing this game, but as I have not met a single one yet, so there cannot be very many.

What is it about this game that the immature do not like and therefore they do not play ity?

Is it that this game is more about traveling all around? And the story is deeply ingrained within it?

I know there must be others here who have also played WoW and have also realized the huge difference in maturity levels of the players here.

I would be interested in your thoughts as to why this is.

Thanks!

[Alaray]

tbh it's not

the experienced you outlined I've had in WoW, and I've seen people in this game blow up at others for petty crap plenty of times. Communities are pretty much the same, just more people can be more directly aggressive about their misgivings in WoW than in FF where you'll get a lot more passive aggression.

I've loaded up in a dungeon in WoW, said "I'm new here" and people would say the similar "oh cool, the boss does x watch out for that" or "these mobs need to be interrupted/this debuff needs to be cleansed" etc...

I've also had people in FF absolutely blow up at someone else for a mistake, or call someone [Insert Insult] over, for example, casting Holy in Dohn Mheg.

Both things happen in both communities shrug emoji.

[Cyreil]

Don't worry, you'll see it when you start raiding.

[Xatsh]

I do not see a difference to be honest.

Both games have toxic players, both games have trolls, and both games have people who are willing to help one another.

FFXIV's endgame at least the party finder I find to generally be highly toxic. Pretty sure my blacklist is around 180 people now.

[ItMe]

The maturity is high here?
My FC is full of bozos that laugh at my bad fart jokes and make silly voices in Discord.
Maybe all the mature people are just drawn to your server because it was named after a cigarette?

[gumas]

i personally think its because the "setting" and the "atmosphere" of the game.

in wow the setting is war, player can choose between alliance and horde and these 2 faction are always oppose each other, this alone shape the player mindset tend to be "hostile" the moment they see others, and the world in the game also encourage this.

in FF14 however, fight between players are put on the background, the main theme of this game is adventure and fighting together against evil. the setting of this game is "band together" basically it encourage you to be nice and positive toward other player.

i cant put it into words but basically FF14 did not focus like pvp, opposing each other, faction war or anything like that, these make people feel "at ease" and because of that there is no reason to be "jerk/jackass" toward other players. and on top of that everything surrounding FF14 outside combat just scream "having fun/silly stuff" with stuff like playing instrument, housing, furniture, pose, group pose, golden saucer, weird getup, etc.

[Vahlnir]

i personally think its because the "setting" and the "atmosphere" of the game.

in wow the setting is war, player can choose between alliance and horde and these 2 faction are always oppose each other, this alone shape the player mindset tend to be "hostile" the moment they see others, and the world in the game also encourage this.

in FF14 however, fight between players are put on the background, the main theme of this game is adventure and fighting together against evil. the setting of this game is "band together" basically it encourage you to be nice and positive toward other player.

i cant put it into words but basically FF14 did not focus like pvp, opposing each other, faction war or anything like that, these make people feel "at ease" and because of that there is no reason to be "jerk/jackass" toward other players. and on top of that everything surrounding FF14 outside combat just scream "having fun/silly stuff" with stuff like playing instrument, housing, furniture, pose, group pose, golden saucer, weird getup, etc.

I don't think faction wars have anything to do with why players are so hostile in WoW when it comes to player interactions. The design of the game at its core, however, is...as well as the general disdain between players and the dev team, which is the result of the core game design. lol Even so, this game's player base isn't any better depending on where you look, if not arguably worse in certain areas. Just in different ways. I think overall this community is more friendly, but I would never put it up on a pedestal.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

To put it simply, it’s only half true.
Just like any MMOs, they have their own fair share of polite and impolite players. Perhaps you just haven’t met the impolite players (hopefully not, but few times this is inevitable). They’re not too common... but they do exist.

Now slightly to the darker side:
”If you have to think you will offend certain somebody with your words, it might be wise to forget about it & type something else or nothing at all.”
A little bit hyperbolic, sure. But doesn’t mean it never happens.

[MachaYum]

Ffxiv is more mature, huh? Idk, this game is basically twitter lol

[Ralph2449]

Because unlike most western companies SE actually cares about hiring GMs and enforcing their ToS and stopping toxicity at their tracks, meanwhile all big popular games with global chats are cesspools that the devs do nothing about because the western gamer TM has been far to accepting of slurs, hate speech, insults and attacks in general, that thankfully doesnt fly here which leads to a far superior community.

Plus because the game isnt designed to pander to high end only we have less people who are toxic and emotional because their ego depends on video game achievements and performance, FF14 has the rep of "casual" game which is a dirty word for WoW players who obsess over high end so much they become extreme tryhard metaslave elitists, and the dev design that keeps rewarding only high end and giving scraps to casuals and acceptance of addons from dps meters to raider io only leads to a more toxic and terrible community.