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    Why aren't Idyllshire in the Eorzean Alliance

    I'm sure those goblins have some useful inputs during meetings.
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    On one hand, now that you mention it, I think it would be pretty cute to see Idyllshire represented on the battlefield; I bet the gobbies over there have had a field day plucking the leavings of the collapsing Illuminati.

    On the other, though, we have two things that run counter to the idea of Idyllshire having organized armed forces with a central government capable of committing an entire nation to a military alliance. The first is that the focus was so hard on "free nation for free people" that the watchguard couldn't figure out how to do their job because they didn't think to make RULES for where the boundaries are and how to enforce them. The second is that leadership is... Well,

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    Pshkohhh... Why must governing great gobbie nation be so difficult!? Like herding coeurls.
    Stupid coeurls with muchly differing views on glorious nation's future direction!
    I think we have a better chance of seeing the free Idyllshire's free people joining the adventurer squadrons of the existing free companies than seeing the battle standard of the glorious free nation of Idyllshire, lol.
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 03-12-2021 at 11:27 AM.

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    Idyllshire's sovereignty isn't recognized by the Alliance. Baboom.

    In fairness it is a smaller town without secure borders or settlements outside of Idyllshire itself; while its inventiveness would (or rather could) certainly prove useful, it lacks anything in the way of true military might thus far.
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    Yeah, I think we could end up working with individual goblins to achieve stuff, but they're not very organised as a nation.

    It could still be nice to formally reach out to them, but I don't know how much one could speak for the others. Or at least they might not feel like they should.

    It would probably make sense to keep them in the loop, at least, even if they're not going to be part of the military alliance.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 03-12-2021 at 11:50 AM.

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    Cuz Idyllshire is a not totally abandoned colony founded by a group intent on remaining neutral (the sharlayans).

    And cuz goblins are basically a beast tribe.
    Though after hearing Merwyb's speech from that recent MSQ maybe that'll mean less in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Cuz Idyllshire is a not totally abandoned colony founded by a group intent on remaining neutral (the sharlayans).[/HB]
    The Sharlayans have absolutely no hands in the people that now occupy Idllyshire. The current inhabitants of Idllyshire are their own, distinct nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
    The Sharlayans have absolutely no hands in the people that now occupy Idllyshire. The current inhabitants of Idllyshire are their own, distinct nation.
    Ah, yes.
    I wasn't clear.
    The colony was founded by people intent on remaining neutral. They've since abandoned the colony to retreat to Sharlayan. The colony is still inhabited however, and despite the Sharlayans absence their philosophy is very deeply ingrained in Idyllshire.

    I was not trying to suggest there were still a few Sharlayans around in an unofficial capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    I was not trying to suggest there were still a few Sharlayans around in an unofficial capacity.
    Then what is Matoya doing? Something about living in a cave with brooms and frogs really brings the "unofficial" into focus in unofficial capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Then what is Matoya doing? Something about living in a cave with brooms and frogs really brings the "unofficial" into focus in unofficial capacity.
    I don't understand what this post means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kesey View Post
    Then what is Matoya doing? Something about living in a cave with brooms and frogs really brings the "unofficial" into focus in unofficial capacity.
    She's living the hermit life, and an eccentric one at that; hardly qualifying as being involved in Idyllshire in even an unofficial capacity. Besides, she revealed a low opinion of her former Sharlayan fellows when you first meet her, didn't she?
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