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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    those who treated the game like a business and made house-flipping lucrative
    Today players like this own multiple houses, sometimes several. Just like Yoshi-P said they would under a cut-price system. Saying 'no one had that money 7 years ago' doesn't mean anything. Everyone has the money now.

    I don't think "less than half the gil you made doing the story + ~100 hours of blood sweat and tears" is a good price for a house. Camping is anti fun. Camping is so anti fun that people are suggesting we make the housing system even worse than it already is on the off chance that it might reduce the suffering.

    My suggestion cripples people who would become multiple house owners. It also saves campers ~100 hours each. That's a lot of gameplay time given back to the players. Gameplay time = fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Today players like this own multiple houses, sometimes several. Just like Yoshi-P said they would under a cut-price system. Saying 'no one had that money 7 years ago' doesn't mean anything. Everyone has the money now.

    I don't think "less than half the gil you made doing the story + ~100 hours of blood sweat and tears" is a good price for a house. Camping is anti fun. Camping is so anti fun that people are suggesting we make the housing system even worse than it already is on the off chance that it might reduce the suffering.

    My suggestion cripples people who would become multiple house owners. It also saves campers ~100 hours each. That's a lot of gameplay time given back to the players. Gameplay time = fun.
    Making housing only for the rich is also anti-fun and anti-casual, especially considering home decorating is considered casual content.
    Your suggestion doesn't hinder those with gil from buying multiple houses because most of them are more then willing to use bots to spam placard and harvest mats/craft goods to sell on the marketboard. Hell, there are even bots for clearing hardcore content like savage raids and Ultimates.
    My suggestion would slow down the bot-users from jumping from one plot to another. There's one on Exodus that does this regularly with the same Goblet plot: They send a bot or two to spam the placard, one gets it, it leaves to go relocate to another plot, if another bot isn't there, another is sent to scoop that plot back up, rinse and repeat. I've reported them and all their alts (which were extremely obvious) and nothing came from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mimilu View Post
    Your suggestion doesn't hinder those with gil from buying multiple houses
    20 small houses now = 60 million

    20 small houses at ARR pricing = 800 million

    So multiple house owners can get or spend 800 million as easily as they can get or spend 60 million? No, they cannot, obviously. My suggestion would slow them down 10-fold.

    But we're getting way off topic. This thread is not about a price hike. I only gave it a passing mention on the very first page of the thread, and you've brought it up days later in a poor attempt to prove that I do not support campers and derail the conversation from the fact that your suggestion only creates suffering in the hopes that something good will come of said suffering. In the likely event it doesn't bring any positive change, your suggestion does nothing but reduce quality of life. "Let's reduce QoL" is not a helpful suggestion.
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    Last edited by Catstab; 03-13-2021 at 05:17 AM. Reason: adding a correction that my suggestion did not change the topic, Mimilu's bringing up my suggestion days later did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    20 small houses now = 60 million

    20 small houses at ARR pricing = 800 million

    So multiple house owners can get or spend 800 million as easily as they can get or spend 60 million? No, they cannot, obviously. My suggestion would slow them down 10-fold.

    But we're getting way off topic. This thread is not about a price hike. I only gave it a passing mention earlier and you latched onto it.
    And again, it wouldn't slow them down if they are using bots to earn gil.
    But you are right, your suggestion took us off topic.
    My suggestion still stands. It prevents characters/FC from plot hopping (leaving plots with reset buy timers that give other relocators time to scoop it up, repeating the cycle) and slows down bots, allowing those without houses the chance to buy reasonably-priced housing.
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