Disallow Relocation, At Least Temporarily

[Mimilu]

You're suggesting the removal of an existing quality of life upgrade, under the mistaken impression it will have a side effect of positively influencing player behavior.

Removing quality of life upgrades from the game simply reduces quality of life for players. You'd think that was obvious - but here you are, acting like you haven't heard my point when I've said several times that this change brings only bad things, and no good things.

You call my facts opinions but you are suggesting removing a beneficial feature from the game. This is objectively bad, not opinion.
You say that patching out a quality of life upgrade would change player behavior, but that's a guess. And I personally disagree with your guess, and I think anyone who understands system design will also disagree.

Like Penthea said, I am not suggesting the removal of relocating, just suggesting adding a restriction/cooldown to make it easier for those who don't own a house, FC or personal.
If you view putting limits or restriction as the same thing as removing a function, then I don't know what to do for you. It's a common thing for scares resources.
Also, what happened to this not being your problem? >w>

[Catstab]

If you view putting limits or restriction as the same thing as removing a function, then I don't know what to do for you

While I appreciate your attempt to use my own arguments against me, you've misread them. Here, go back and look again.

Limiting it in a way that would force people to use the old system is objectively a bad idea

I get that you only want to increase the cooldown 8600-fold. This would force people to occasionally use the old system. This would be a bad change, as I've said. Don't change what I've said and argue against your imaginary version of me, please.

[Mimilu]

I get that you only want to increase the cooldown 8600-fold. This would force people to occasionally use the old system. This would be a bad change, as I've said. Don't change what I've said and argue against your imaginary version of me, please.

It wouldn't force anyone who plays in the confines of the rules to do anything. Only those who don't want to play with in the parameters would suffer, which is not mine or the devs' problem (unless cheating is involved, which the GMs will handle).
If someone is as bloodthirsty as your example that they would destroy their FC at the chance to get Mist 5/35, that is on them, not on the community.
If they can't be patient and wait so others can have a chance at getting a house, then that is on them.
And what cooldown are you talking about? The 5 minute one? Like that is substantial in any way.

[Catstab]

those who don't want to play with in the parameters would suffer

Exactly my point, thank you.

Burdening FCs with a conditional need to partially disband to relocate is an unreasonable amount of suffering. Especially since your suggestion offers no benefit whatsoever. You only guess that it will change player behavior. No evidence suggests you are correct in this guess.

Placing this restriction on private estate owners could possibly be considered. Placing the restriction on FCs conditionally removes their access to a quality of life feature, and there is no justification for it.

[Mimilu]

Exactly my point, thank you.

Burdening FCs with a conditional need to partially disband to relocate is an unreasonable amount of suffering. Especially since your suggestion offers no benefit whatsoever. You only guess that it will change player behavior. No evidence suggests you are correct in this guess.

Placing this restriction on private estate owners could possibly be considered. Placing the restriction on FCs conditionally removes their access to a quality of life feature, and there is no justification for it.

Again, you, the leader of an FC with a medium house and who is clearly gunning for Mist 35, are only prioritizing FCs that own a house. Screw anyone, FC or single-player, who doesn't already own a house.
The poor, poor relocators need to be protected! I mean, the housing timers can go past 24 hours, 288 times the 5 minutes wait new house owners have to wait before they can relocate, but you know, people who already own houses need them more. >w>

[Catstab]

Again, you, the leader of an FC with a medium house and who is clearly gunning for Mist 35

Please stop bringing up the imaginary Catstab you have inside your head. The real me is right here. Honestly, stop. I've said enough here in this thread that you have plenty of material to use in this discussion and you don't need to make stuff up about me. I'm very uncomfortable with you imagining what I must be thinking according to you, and then acting as if I said those things. I'm not 'clearly' anything. If you have a question, ask it.

I'm the leader of an FC. We have an LB 41. We do not desire to relocate ever again. I argue on behalf of all FCs that would like to relocate.

Mist 5/35 is commonly considered the most desirable large in game, although some people consider shirogane 30/60 to be just as good. I used 'placard Mist 35' as an example of an opportunity that could not be passed up. Any FC leader with the opportunity to claim a house like that will do it - whether your suggestion goes through or not. So your suggestion fails to save the house and partially disbands the FC, thereby creating suffering for no benefit.

Again, lets make things better for campers, not worse for relocators.

[Penthea]

I'm the leader of an FC. We have an LB 41. We do not desire to relocate ever again. I argue on behalf of all FCs that would like to relocate.

I am stunned that you think so many fcs would be greatly hindered by a cd on relocation that's only a week or two. Most fcs and players who just got their house or relocated are too busy being happy in their new spot to be looking to move again so soon.

Especially considering that purchasing and relocation is not free. The costs add up fast if you relocate a lot in a short space of time, which is money most are not willing to spend. New wards are always announced long before they are launched so a fc could easily choose to abstain from relocating until the new wards come so that they're not on cd when their favourite plot becomes available.

But it's clear you're not willing to budge on your stance that increasing the cd is some sort of despicable idea that would put fcs through some manner of torture, and anything else I have to say about this to you would just be repetition.

[Mimilu]

So your suggestion fails to save the house and partially disbands the FC, thereby creating suffering for no benefit.

Again, lets make things better for campers, not worse for relocators.

Because suggesting raising the placard prices so that only people who treat the game like a cookie clicker can afford them is totally looking out for campers (and totally not going to make RMTing more profitable). >w>
My suggestion only makes it "worse" for those who want to relocate right after buying a plot (thus leaving another plot with a reset sales timer for campers to loose out on to another relocator, repeating the cycle), who frankly, like Penthea said, should be thankful that they were able to get a house at all with this system. FCs and players who have owned a house longer then the cooldown wouldn't be effected until they relocated, which I would hope an established homeowner/FC would know what they want by that point.