Disallow Relocation, At Least Temporarily

[Venjamin]

Yeap exactly. Working as intended. Relocating is a wonderful feature for those with a house. Address the real issue and not the relocations. You can go on an on about how it's spitting in the face of you and yours but it's not. You can run around being bitter all you like but it's not likely to change. Spend your time trying to get them to address the timer itself.

Then it's a bad system, if it's "working as intended." Systems designed shouldn't be designed to screw over people. But you are right about one thing: Talking on the forums doesn't matter. People like the two of you are devoid of empathy, and it does not matter the garbage situation others are in, you are perfectly happy taking part.

Sure. It's bad because it's bad. Just objectively a bad change. Did you not read this bit before?

Current:
-No one has to break FCs down for housing reasons, ever.
-Campers only defeat the timer once, then access the housing market freely

The suggestion:
-Sometimes social FCs die, but only if their leaders dare make a mistake in your deeply flawed system
-Campers camp every relocation they ever want, because standing at a placard adds replayability to ff14

Again, this suggestion only makes things worse. It's a bad suggestion.

Incorrect. You can copypasta what you want, doesn't change the fact that it makes things "worse" in that it "makes things equal across the board and now the process sucks for everyone, not just the people who are getting spit on, except now more people will get the opportunity to buy a house."

Am I bitter? Totally. Wasting a week of your life to get something only to have it repeatedly taken by people who get to play by a second set of rules because they literally already won the lottery is a pretty garbage feeling to play on repeat. I know you don't actually care, though, so it's mostly whatever at this point.

[LaylaTsarra]

Then it's a bad system, if it's "working as intended." Systems designed shouldn't be designed to screw over people. But you are right about one thing: Talking on the forums doesn't matter. People like the two of you are devoid of empathy, and it does not matter the garbage situation others are in, you are perfectly happy taking part.

Stop being a bitter pill and and telling people they are devoid of empathy. You are not the only person who is invested in the housing system. Those with homes should be able to relocate and without having to camp a timer again. Your main problem is the length of timer you need to camp. That is the issue not the relocations.

Just be sure to impugn the integrity of those opposed to your little suggestion. This is a forum and people have different points of view. Get used to it.

[Catstab]

the fact that it makes things "worse" in that it "makes things equal across the board and now the process sucks for everyone

The proposed change makes things worse for everyone.

Campers currently camp their first house, and only their first house. You want campers to camp second, third, and fourth times. That is an incredible waste of time.
Relocation provides security for social FCs that did not exist before it was created. You want FCs to blow up occasionally. That is a waste of time and money.

So I get that you're bitter - but go google some stuff, learn about housing, and stop supporting a terrible suggestion that wastes time and money.

[ItMe]

Considering OP is an account that was made this month, and still their only post is starting this hotbutton issue thread (which they have not contributed to beyond starting it and stepping back)... probably a troll and best to let this thread die?

[Catstab]

troll... thread die?

It was decaying nicely until it got necroed yesterday by the guy that admits he's bitter.

Look, this info is out there, but I'm gonna put it here, as sort of an 'in closing'

Tips for camping:

-Be courteous. If you win a plot, lose a plot, or are joined by another camper please remember not to act cruel or entitled. The other players deserve the same chance you do

-Check city aetherytes at the top of any hour exactly, right as the clock rolls over from --:59 to --:00, this is when demolitions go off

-from the city aetheryte plaza, choose 'Residential District Aethernet,' check the directory page for all 48 wards and sub-wards, plots for sale show a price in white

-Goblet plots will be abandoned most frequently and camped by the fewest others, conversely, lakefront and beachfront properties are very likely to be taken by relocators

-Use the numpad (with numlock on: 0,0,0,0,4,0) or a controller to target/navigate the placard dialogue rather than the mouse, this avoids 'large mount' griefing

-Type /busy once to automatically reject all tells and trade offers while camping. Enter the command again when done to cancel.

-Conventional wisdom says that a plot will not become available until between hour 8 and hour 22 of the timer. So if you see a plot become vacant or know where someone relocated from, return in 8-10 hours with the goal of camping 12-14 hours, rather than camping the full 22. The only benefit of camping the first 8 would be possibly getting the tip on someones old plot when they relo into your camper

+FC specific: give multiple ranks the ability to purchase land for the FC, allowing you to camp multiple plots at one time and/or to camp plots in shifts

Here's a link to Sadu's Housing Alerts discord. This community gives you an opportunity to crowdsource your ward checks with other campers and help determine the time that a plot opened. https://discord.gg/saChECt

Don't like communities? Didn't like my flash card camping tips? Go for the college credit with Sadu's 22 page PDF on housing. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1..._RfEPNbrA/edit

[Awha]

How I got all of my plots I check on the top of the hour and I limit myself to one click an hour.

Let eng sort it out. Also who relocate rarely go from small to small and if you are trying to camp a medium plot that is s utter waste of time since someone will relocate.

Though if you annoy and act entitled at a small plot that may also cause someone with gil to burn to also relocate.

Though people might relocate to a small plot of their dreams or if it is closer to a MB better location etc . . . Though generally relocating from small to small is not that common. So chin up.