The Trust System was prefect, why do we need to level them now?

[AKiwi]

I haven't looked at the trust system until very recently after playing through 5.3 msq only to learn that we now need to level up the trust to level 80 by doing each dungeon 3 times.

I know there were a lot of complaints about how shitty the AI of the trusts are when it first came out and the devs explained that they don't want it to be better than running with real players. Which is all well and good.....If I didn't need to deal with running each dungeon 3 times with them for them to be useful. I tried running with a trust a few times and its just painful.

Trust would be a good option when we occasionally want to get some immersion with our beloved npcs or when dps queue gets too long. Which is I believe is what the devs intended to begin with. But as of now it just too repetitive and takes too much effort for how bad the AI is.

While squadrons don't have any better AI than the trust, they can be leveled by spending currency and sending them off on their own. they also served another function which is retrieving squadron manuals.

Possible solutions would be to let us send trust out to level them up on their own, and or make the process less grindy by decreasing the number of times you need to run each dungeon, or just go back to not having to level the trust to begin with (which is unlikely)

Edit: I think I might have messed up the spoiler tags and can't change it in edit, pls help.

[Iscah]

You're using strikethrough, not spoiler tags.

We don't have "black out text" spoilers. You can put it in a "hidden box" (hb) but they aren't good for mid-sentence.

Just delete the spoilery bits entirely - your point makes sense without needing to bring them up.

[ItMe]

I agree OP. I'm not happy with it either.
I legit don't do trusts because you have to level them.
I'm with you, I hope they change it. I liked running Holminster Switch with everyone because it was fun to listen to them talk to each other and see how each character reacts uniquely to thinks (I hear they all have a different approach to crossing the bridge in Don Mheg), but I'm not gonna spend the time to grind them up, especially when they don't use AoEs. It's not like I have anything that I wanna level either. I'd be grinding just for them.

[DrWho2010]

i levelled a tank and one dps thru trusts, it was great and easy. oh noes effort.

[Shahi]

Why are you ppl so lazy? Leveling trusts and squadron is easy and fun. I wish the kittyboy was 71 so i could level him...

[Zol_blade]

Why are you ppl so lazy? Leveling trusts and squadron is easy and fun. I wish the kittyboy was 71 so i could level him...

If only, we could send them to solo) group missions without us joining them like how we have for squadron

[Stepjam]

Why are you ppl so lazy? Leveling trusts and squadron is easy and fun. I wish the kittyboy was 71 so i could level him...

I don't think I'd call it "fun". Tedious more like. Takes like 6 runs to finish a dungeon with one set of characters, and they go so slooow (deliberately so, I'm okay with the fact it's like that, but the fact it's like that has put me off leveling up my trusts). God forbid trying to do it at launch when it took like twice as long.

[MartaDemireux]

I don't think I'd call it "fun". Tedious more like. Takes like 6 runs to finish a dungeon with one set of characters, and they go so slooow (deliberately so, I'm okay with the fact it's like that, but the fact it's like that has put me off leveling up my trusts). God forbid trying to do it at launch when it took like twice as long.

It felt kind of slow but only really took like 10-15min longer per run. DPS queues more than make up for that at times.

There's actually some neat tricks to take note of as well. Like if a fight is taking too long, Urianger will start casting Death on enemies to make sure the dungeon is completed in a (predetermined) timely manner.

[Liam_Harper]

What they could have done is added a grind to unlock extra traits and abilities instead of levels, so you could make your runs faster but you had to earn it first. Similar to Squadrons Offensive or Defensive traits, along with aoe for each character.

There's actually some neat tricks to take note of as well. Like if a fight is taking too long, Urianger will start casting Death on enemies to make sure the dungeon is completed in a (predetermined) timely manner.

This is actually a strange part of Trusts, where they almost encourage you to afk during trash packs. The Trust will adjust their damage too if yours is too low. The system actively punishes you for playing too well and participating.

[Absurdity]

This is actually a strange part of Trusts, where they almost encourage you to afk during trash packs. The Trust will adjust their damage too if yours is too low. The system actively punishes you for playing too well and participating.

My guess is that it's a mechanic to make trusts inefficient, so you continue to engage in normal party content, while also allowing you to actually finish the dungeon in time.


If we were to compare it to your squadron, in Brayflox for example a melee dps squad npc with it's offensive tactics at max deals more dps than any player could at that level and two of them simply melt bosses while also taking significantly less damage than an actual player.

This makes running that dungeon with a maxed out squad more efficient than running it with actual players and SE probably wanted to prevent that from happening with Trusts.