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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaFoam View Post
    -Imagine you are at a party, you start a conversation with some people. For the sake of argument its about cake. Everyone has a collective love of cake but, you think cake could be more diverse in its colors, or larger in size, or presentation. The response you get among other things is "ahh". What? What does that mean are you scared? Should we get you some help? Do you need some milk? Did your brain turn off?
    This is pretty socially unacceptable behaviour in any setting. Methinks the problem is you.
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    Volke Volke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    This is pretty socially unacceptable behaviour in any setting. Methinks the problem is you.
    This kinda proves the "ffxiv players can't handle slight disagreements" point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This kinda proves the "ffxiv players can't handle slight disagreements" point.
    Eh. It's up to you to interpret social conventions that way.
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This kinda proves the "ffxiv players can't handle slight disagreements" point.
    I dunno man, if I was at a party and some dude started randomly blathering on about how the cake just isn't up to his high standards I'd be pretty weirded out.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 03-11-2021 at 12:32 AM.

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    Arillyn Lovesong
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    It can be difficult to find an FC that you meld with and feel you fit in. At the same time, it isn't all up to the people already established in the FC to make that happen. It's a two-way street. For example, the FC I am in - we never, ever do recruitment. People from our FC have been invited because they met someone in the FC and had fun, didn't have an FC and were asked if they'd like to join. Most though who join are friends of friends, family, etc. Sometimes we are super chatty. Other times there isn't a lot being said. It all just depends on what everyone is doing, moods, etc.

    However, I have noticed a pattern of people who join our FC and end up leaving - they hardly ever interact with us. We'll say hello when they log in and they may respond but often don't at all. When people are going to run something and ask in the FC if anyone wants to join in (expert, raids, maps, extremes, etc) the people that joined but end up leaving never join in, even when we specifically ask them by name if they'd like to join.

    And it's fine if people want to join the FC and keep to themselves. We have those too. We still say hi and talk with them when they do speak. We'll run things with them if they want to join in or need help. I've just noticed the pattern of the few people who do join and then leave, never actually engage with us even when we try to engage with them.
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    Last edited by Arillyn; 03-11-2021 at 03:01 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Gold Bear
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    Phantom
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    Archer Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Chie_M View Post
    This is pretty socially unacceptable behaviour in any setting. Methinks the problem is you.
    No it is more like you have dictorial mindset .if you can't handle disagreements then don't invite people to fc
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaFoam View Post
    Don't perpetuate the culture of fake positivity ff14 has become known for.
    This is the first time I heard about this being a thing that FFXIV is known for, and I have been playing for several years.

    Also all your fc related problems are things I encountered in every multiplayer game I have played. There are insular and meanspirited people everywhere. Those who find a good community right away are actually in the minority. Most people have to try a few times before they find a group that makes them feel accepted and happy. I actually ended up making my own fc because I couldn't find that group.
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    BunniEclair's Avatar
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    It’d be kinda weird if FCs didn’t have smaller groups of friends within them, especially the larger ones. This happens in any social situation you shove a bunch of people into- they break off into smaller groups and get to know each other.

    If it’s an FC where you think you could get along with the people, then just stick around. Join conversations that are already in progress and get to know them a little better before you start getting out your spicier takes. Join people when they ask for help, or ask to join people if you notice they’re doing something. Being around and being consistent is really all it takes to become established in an FC. This is pretty much socializing 101.

    Also, I’m just gonna put it out there that asking a bunch of cat/bunny/lizard people “so why are there just a bunch of boring humans with animal ears in this game” isn’t quite the conversation starter you think it is, lol.
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    Iris Nakiri
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    I mean what you describe isnt really anything other than the usual guild/clan/FC clique who just invites people for more numbers/bodies for groups, it is definitely not a good idea to stay within these groups if you see they consistently ignore everyone else but their clique.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Pretty much the reason why I don't go for big FCs unless I own them. xD

    I prefer a community where everyone interacts with each other (where my current FC is at) rather than a big one with tons of cliques. The majority of big ones that I've been in usually go something like this:

    Me: Good morning!
    Everyone else: *continues on with their conversations like I didn't even say anything*

    and I dip out not long after.

    Sounds to me like you're better off making your own FC or going for a small one that's just being formed so you're there from the start. However, like some of the other people above said, might wanna drop the ear comments & being the one person that drops convos into a negative (i.e. that cake analogy you gave where everyone is happy with the cake and ur like...well, I think it would be better like this. Take it from the Queen of Negativity (not as bad as I used to be but meh) here, it doesn't get you anywhere good.
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