still new in tanking, is it bad if i didnt use all my skill?

[gumas]

short story is i run as tank and i just tank normally. but several times during my run (4 times as iam typing this now) i got people in my party said that my tank is bad

the gist is that i dont use all my skill (using PLD for example), i still use the core one obviously, halone combo, shield throw, AOE prominence etc and off course the defense skill too (rampart, sentinel, reprisal)

but i almost never use the one like requiescat, holy spirit/circle etc, and this got some people "mad" on me because i didnt play my tank correctly.

basically my tank is just pull enemy, spam prominence AOE 2-3 times and spam halone combo on enemy until everything die, defense skill if necessary and face enemy outside my party

is that wrong? should i also use the holy spirit/circle requiescat combo too? stuff like divine veil, reprisal, cover etc?

[Darkmoonrise]

Well technically, you don't use your tank at it full potential. If this is good or not, is a totally different question. And a never ending question according to this forum. You're doing the minimum of what is awaited from a tank, which is already good.

On a personal point of view, I would notice it and sigh a little bit, but won't get mad. I don't know your story or whatever. In extreme or savage, that's a no go. But normal, I don't care anymore.

P.S. actually PLD is the most easy tank to "catch" not using its full toolkit : if MP full for more than 20 seconds -> full kit is not used. This applies to DRK as well, not sure about the other anymore, too long since I played them.

[Mavrias]

yes, you should be using all your damaging abilities. not sure why this is even a question. also don't single target when there are more than two mobs, this is like second grade level math, read ya tool tips.

reprisal is another defensive and cover is situational.

[Recon1o6]

pld's aoe rotation includes req-holy circle for a reason. Given how pld's mp restore is enough time with some left over to be maxed for req when it comes off cooldown there's no excuse not to

[Sorzai]

Honestly, I think that if it's just a regular dungeon and not end game then it's fine. As long as you are able to pull big mobs and hold aggro, you're golden. Except for end game content then that's different

[Lynesse]

Gumas, you're always so nice!

Think of killing things faster as a form of damage mitigation.

https://ffxivrotations.com/32kb

This is a good starting point. Practice this or a variation of it.

I use Rampart right before I stop running to protect myself from the first wave of autoattacks. Feel free to place it after the first Total Eclipse.

In a lot of pulls, I ignore the first Total Eclipse combo altogether and go right into Requiescat.

There isn't much finesse here. If you use your CDs as often as possible, you'll get more DPS.

[Yuletide]

perhaps the party is just frustrated because you are not using your defense skills when it matters. popping Rampart when you've pulled 2 mobs is a waste, and the next time you almost die to 6+ mobs your healer will be very stressed.

[Vahlnir]

If you aren't using your full kit or even half of it effectively then...yes, it is bad.

[Hierro]

Always use your defensive CDs at the start of a pull, preferably just before the mosh pit piles ontop of you. Avoid thinking "I'll only use rampart or sentinel or hallowed ground if necessary," it is ALWAYS necessary. This by itself will make your tanking several times better than learning how to AoE, cause AoEing is easy. It might seem wasteful to use hallowed ground for a large pull, but believe me, that's when you get the best usage from it for in dungeons nothing is as great a threat to warrant hallowed ground aside from a large, angry mob of monsters. That said, try to coordinate when you'll use it, for the particularly tougher, scarier big pulls, or so that you'll get two uses at least within a dungeon.

Both Flight or Fight, and Requiescat are on a 1 minute cooldown. This means you can effectively use them for every single pull. Always use those buffs in every pull, please.

[Enkidoh]

I definetely understand where the OP is coming from though, as the Requiescat-magic spell combo was suddenly added to PLD's kit with no ceremony or explanation, having gone through pretty much the entire game as a melee fighter/defender you're now expected to spam magic spells as well (and I think they were only added to placate players wanting PLD to be more a 'holy knight' image throwing holy spells around like in past FF games rather than a GLA with better abilities which they've been since day one here in FFXIV).

I'm rather embarrased to say I actually forget about Holy Spirit and Holy Circle most of the time and just go straight for Confiteor, unless I need to throw a Clemency up for my own survival given Requiescat also boosts healing magic potency as well - weaponskills can be just as potent as Requiescat-Holy Spirit/Holy Circle spam in general situations.

I know that's not the 'standard' or expected strategy, but it's worked for me, but then, I must also point out I don't do endgame so it's rather moot anyway.