Mentor Requirements

[GeminiReed]

Trade mentor requirements can be met in an afternoon or two. All mentor requirements are a joke, but in terms of easiest and quickest to get trade bar none.

Depends if you count the time it takes to level a DoL and a DoH to 80. Thanks to Ishgard Restoration it's not quite the hurdle it is to get a Tank, Healer and a DPS to 80 although if you run a SMN to 80 you've killed two birds with one stone. I've heard that guildhests are great for commendation farming. That leaves clearing the 1000 dungeons, raids, or trials as the final gate and all that takes is perseverance.

Fun fact, one of my alts was an 80 SMN/SCH well before she stepped foot in Stormblood. Probably take me all of a week or two to get GNB to 80. Ok, sure, getting to battle mentor from scratch will take a month or two vs. the 2-3 weekends it would take for trade mentor but still nothing that demonstrates teaching ability. Experience helps but the other half of that coin is empathy and that's not something that grinding content is going to impart. Judging by the "Tales from Duty Finder" thread it seems like quite the opposite.

In my opinion, most battle mentors become this through normal gameplay instead of grinding for it, because what they say and do demonstrates they are a really experienced player.

See above.

The way the Mentor program is designed has attracted achievement hunters, collectors, and those that wish to lord their status over others. Access to NN corrects a major shortcoming with XIV (global chat). They've incentivized everything except mentoring.

[Themarvin]

Depends if you count the time it takes to level a DoL and a DoH to 80. Thanks to Ishgard Restoration it's not quite the hurdle it is to get a Tank, Healer and a DPS to 80 although if you run a SMN to 80 you've killed two birds with one stone. I've heard that guildhests are great for commendation farming. That leaves clearing the 1000 dungeons, raids, or trials as the final gate and all that takes is perseverance.

Fun fact, one of my alts was an 80 SMN/SCH well before she stepped foot in Stormblood. Probably take me all of a week or two to get GNB to 80. Ok, sure, getting to battle mentor from scratch will take a month or two vs. the 2-3 weekends it would take for trade mentor but still nothing that demonstrates teaching ability. Experience helps but the other half of that coin is empathy and that's not something that grinding content is going to impart. Judging by the "Tales from Duty Finder" thread it seems like quite the opposite.


See above.

The way the Mentor program is designed has attracted achievement hunters, collectors, and those that wish to lord their status over others. Access to NN corrects a major shortcoming with XIV (global chat). They've incentivized everything except mentoring.

the SMN thing with getting a heal and dps at once is not fool proof, the difficulty is getting 1500 commendations and in ways of that same time and difficulty should be put on the other types of mentors.... it say Trade Mentor, fine lets bar it behind as when having done sales for 30millions or something down those lines via the marketboard in addition getting what they are supposed to get now.

You wont just get PvE mentor as ease as you say, it can take several months to amass 1500 player commendations to begin with, battle mentor actually takes time and is not as easy as you claim it to be.... yes you can get a DPS/HEALS/TANK up fast, yes you can be cheap and run unsynched content to get the dungeon bit down as well, but you need physical to get 1500 commendations that you need to be getting from a random player that you are not pre-grouped with... if you run 5 dungeons a day and only maybe getting 1-2 commendations per run, then you are in another world of something you do not just get.

[Kaurhz]

the SMN thing with getting a heal and dps at once is not fool proof, the difficulty is getting 1500 commendations and in ways of that same time and difficulty should be put on the other types of mentors.... it say Trade Mentor, fine lets bar it behind as when having done sales for 30millions or something down those lines via the marketboard in addition getting what they are supposed to get now.

You wont just get PvE mentor as ease as you say, it can take several months to amass 1500 player commendations to begin with, battle mentor actually takes time and is not as easy as you claim it to be.... yes you can get a DPS/HEALS/TANK up fast, yes you can be cheap and run unsynched content to get the dungeon bit down as well, but you need physical to get 1500 commendations that you need to be getting from a random player that you are not pre-grouped with... if you run 5 dungeons a day and only maybe getting 1-2 commendations per run, then you are in another world of something you do not just get.

The reason why this wouldn't work is that in itself doesn't determine anything, making 30 million sum trade sales is not exactly difficult. Let's not forget to mention that given how the market board itself functions whereby you can see both the retainer and a signature on anything you craft, it makes it an easily boost-able component of the mentorship. Making it just as bad, if not worse than any other implementation they could go with. Setting aside just how ludicrously easy it is to make such Gil on patch days. These seemingly arbitrary goals (or types therein) don't really amount to much or demonstrate much, barring how active, or inactive the person is with engaging with a very small subset of the 'system' itself and that doesn't really translate into anything

[Awha]

End of the day all mentors are a joke but trade mentors are the biggest joke.

Nothing wrong with being a meme within a meme.

Also let us not try and say trade mentor takes any amount of dedications you can auto pilot the requirements. I should know I have done it on a new account. Sure by in large it is due to road to 70 and Ishgard restoration. Still I like my budget mentor status.